Talk:Decalogue (disambiguation)
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[edit]just noticed that there's alread an [[1]] article. Oh well.
this page probably should redirect. Not sure how to do that yet.
P0lyglut 22:09, 2003 Nov 26 (UTC)
Per the discussion on the Ten Commandments page, while the TCs almost universally refers to Ex20, 'Decalogue' is more ambiguous, so the disambig is appropriate. kwami 08:34, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
- No it's not. Decalogue without a modifier refer to the "ethical decalogue". JFW | T@lk 09:44, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Suggested move
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The result of the move request was: moved for primary topic. -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:43, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Decalogue → Decalogue (disambiguation) – Ten Commandments is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Decalogue should redirect there. JFH (talk) 17:44, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
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- Oppose. "Ten Commandments" isn't one of the options in the dab page. I would be fine with it if the main article were to be called "Decalogue", but that would be a separate discussion. — kwami (talk) 05:19, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
- The first item, the Ethical Decalogue, is a rarely used title for the Ten Commandments and it redirects appropriately. When the word "Decalogue" is used alone, it almost always means the subject of Ten Commandments. --JFH (talk) 05:22, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
- We've had rather extensive and sometimes heated discussions about this. "Ten Commandments" (when it doesn't mean the movie!) is indeed almost always used for the ED, or for various metaphors based on the ED. However, "Decalogue" is more common in academic sources, and there the skew isn't as great. — kwami (talk) 22:30, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
- I can't find any discussion of PRIMARYTOPIC at Talk:Ten Commandments. Even if it is more common in academic sources, the criterion for PRIMARYTOPIC is "highly likely...to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term." I have a hard time believing anyone is looking for the Ritual Decalogue when they search for just Decalogue. I actually don't know too much about this subject; do academics really use the term "Decalogue" by itself for the Ritual Decalogue? --JFH (talk) 02:36, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
- They refer to the "Decalogue" and then discuss how the ED and RD fit into that conception, whether the RD is closer to the original Decalogue than the ED, whether they contain a mix of sources, etc. In such cases, "Decalogue" could be either or both. — kwami (talk) 06:12, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
- OK, but I would think they would know that in a general context "Decalogue" is going to refer to the traditional ten. It really doesn't matter that Decalogue is more likely to be used in academic contexts, it is sometimes used in popular contexts, and there it almost always means Ten Commandments. --JFH (talk) 17:40, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
- If by "general" you mean "lay". But in a general general context, we can't say that. — kwami (talk) 01:49, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- Lay (and I'm not convinced it's used this way in the majority of academic contexts) seems like exactly what is meant in PRIMARYTOPIC. --JFH (talk) 15:33, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- If by "general" you mean "lay". But in a general general context, we can't say that. — kwami (talk) 01:49, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- OK, but I would think they would know that in a general context "Decalogue" is going to refer to the traditional ten. It really doesn't matter that Decalogue is more likely to be used in academic contexts, it is sometimes used in popular contexts, and there it almost always means Ten Commandments. --JFH (talk) 17:40, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
- They refer to the "Decalogue" and then discuss how the ED and RD fit into that conception, whether the RD is closer to the original Decalogue than the ED, whether they contain a mix of sources, etc. In such cases, "Decalogue" could be either or both. — kwami (talk) 06:12, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
- I can't find any discussion of PRIMARYTOPIC at Talk:Ten Commandments. Even if it is more common in academic sources, the criterion for PRIMARYTOPIC is "highly likely...to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term." I have a hard time believing anyone is looking for the Ritual Decalogue when they search for just Decalogue. I actually don't know too much about this subject; do academics really use the term "Decalogue" by itself for the Ritual Decalogue? --JFH (talk) 02:36, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
- We've had rather extensive and sometimes heated discussions about this. "Ten Commandments" (when it doesn't mean the movie!) is indeed almost always used for the ED, or for various metaphors based on the ED. However, "Decalogue" is more common in academic sources, and there the skew isn't as great. — kwami (talk) 22:30, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
- The first item, the Ethical Decalogue, is a rarely used title for the Ten Commandments and it redirects appropriately. When the word "Decalogue" is used alone, it almost always means the subject of Ten Commandments. --JFH (talk) 05:22, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
- Comment - fixed the dab. No opinion on the RM. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:24, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support - this seems a no-brainer per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. StAnselm (talk) 06:53, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support -- indeed a no-brainer. Decalogue is essentially synonymous with the Ten C's, other senses being of paltry import. DeistCosmos (talk) 20:34, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
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