Talk:Albert Wesker

Main Antagonist?

I question this claim. He is arguably the main human antagonist in the original game, but you never actually fight him. Then he isn't in Part 2 or 3 at all. He shows up in Code Veronica but the "main antagonist" label doesn't exactly fit that game either. I don't know much about Part 0 but I know he's basically a "bonus" character in Part 4. I am editing this, please discuss before reverting. --Feitclub 06:23, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)

Despite the fact that there is difficulty in titling Wesker as the principal villain within the individual scenarios of each games, I believe that he does fulfill the role as the main antagonist. I think the problem with labelling Wesker with this title is that he is not given the status of most archetypal villains (he has been killed and defeated by all of the primary heroes have knowledge of who he is.) Either way, his feud with Chris Redfield (arguably the series primary hero as he is the character that most fans associate with the series) seems to demonstrate his importance as a villain. -- Jack of Blades

Wesker is not the main antagonist... Ozwell E. Spencer is. Sure, we've never even seen, heard, or have been humanly told about him, but we've read about him and it is no doubt that it was he that started Umbrella, the experiments, the mansion incidents, and everything after. Wesker is just a lackey who thinks he can stray from the pack. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.70.139 (talk) 23:50, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

You're all wrong, I think Umbrella as a whole are the antogonists.

Umbrella goes bankrupt and Wesker is still being evil in RE4 and he is trying to revive umbrella, so Umbrella's finished, almost everyone except Spencer is dead, and Spencer is hiding from the police, and Wesker is the only character to have a role in every resident evil, even if he was working in the shadows, and in Umbrella chronicles he technically is the principal character, because he is the one telling everything that had a connection with umbrella's end and you get to play as him. So he really is the main antagonist until we know Spencer's role in future games, its like thinking Darth Vader is the main antagonist in Star Wars then they show you Palpatines powers and role, so wait until RE5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.176.95.55 (talk) 12:22, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Information about #4

In the article it mentions that Wesker recieved a fake sample from Ada (as well as other claims). Can someone back this up with evidence?

Source: Resident Evil 4 (PS2) - Ada's Report - # 5.

Ada comments on her orders from 'The Organization' to secure the sample, and to send a different present to Wesker instead, because of the discovery of ties between Albert Wesker and another pharmaceutical corporation, S. Mark4011 07:35, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

bleh

I was doing ok with copyediting till I got to this paragraph:

Wesker bunkered down in a small secure monitoring room, safe from roaming monsters and from his former team. Here, he began leading the others to traps. When the opportunity presented itself, he gained Barry's cooperation by blackmailing him with threats against his family. Wesker was also responsible for the death of Bravo Team's leader, Enrico Marini, after finding the truth, using Barry to get to him. However, Jill and Chris eventually learned the truth about Wesker and proceeded to destroy the Tyrant, along with the underground laboratory. The two, along with Barry and surviving Bravo Team member Rebecca, escaped the mansion in a helicopter piloted by a guilt-stricken Brad Vickers, and left Wesker for dead after he was killed by Tyrant, which he had himself awakened.

Then my eyes started bleeding because it is so ambiguous and parts do not make sense and ...well. Someone else please help this paragraph because I suspect the ambiguity is due to actual plot info that I don't know about, not being a RE fan and I don't want to change the meaning of anything. --Naha|^(talk) 20:48, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

It could used a bit of clearing up. I'll get right to it.

sources

This article needs sources! :) --Naha|^(talk) 20:52, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Exactly which part of the article do you find factually objectable to verify their sources. Alot of it is based on info from the games themselves or the two Wesker's Reports. Jonny2x4 03:13, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

The Main character?

I don't plan on putting this in the wiki although I had thought about it...but its just speculation more than anything so not for now. I was wondering, does anyone else feel like Wesker is the pseudo main character of the entire Resident Evil series? He may not be the hero, but he's technically been in almost every single RE or at least by far the highest amount...and if he's not there physically he at least has an intangible presense usually.

RE0=He's with Birkin, and Bravo Team's dillemna is of course his doing. RE=We all know his part here RE2=He may not have been there in game, but canon wise he was along with Ada for the whole thing...working within the shadows. RE3=He wasn't really there so this is a bit of a stretch, but since he was present in RE2 he must of been looming around the city at least a little, and didn't Nicholai have some connection with him? (Or was he just Umbrella's dog, which would make him a rival of Wesker) RE: Code Veronica=Major role in the plot RE4=Secretly fighting the battle behind the scenes, and playable in Mercenaries.

While his appearance is something, what makes me think of him as the main character in a way is his influence in the series. Even in games that have nothing to do with him such as Outbreak and Gun Survivor Wesker is at least mentioned once...or at least his doings. Also if you think about it...in a way RE is Wesker's story, thats my biggest thought. From the first game to the most recent 4, everything is a step in Wesker's plan or his general escapades. In 0 it was all about getting the Tyrant and using it against Umbrella (for his own purposes of course). From 2 to Veronica..all the events of each game are a backdrop to the real conclusion...Wesker obtaining what he wanted. Even in 4, perhaps more than any other game, the story seems to twist around Wesker's fingers. The cult and everything was used by Wesker (using Ada) so he could obtain what he wanted. The overall motion of the story now is what Wesker is up to.

I'm sorry if this is a bit wordy, but I was wondering if anyone else shared this sentiment?--Kiyosuki 01:51, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I share your sentiments, however in regards to him being a "pseudo main character", there's nothing pseudo about it.

The only thing I'm hesitant to add to the article, is Wesker's motivation. It's a observation I noted from Wesker's Reports, and from the non-canon novelizations. You see, I think Wesker is a bit paranoid when it comes to Ozwell E. Spencer. Wesker seems to question Spencer's motivations, reasonings, actions, and future plans.

Especially when it came down to Spencer's extravagant research costs. Spencer demanded a stand alone biological weapon that could exterminate an entire population, yet the costs of the research were so high, it made little business sense to Wesker. And yet research continued to find this stand alone biological weapon.

Wesker even questions why their labs are where they are? Most of their products were extremely adaptable to almost everything, and infected almost everything. The other founder, Edward Ashford, established a lab in the barren South Pole. To Wesker, it seemed Spencer was waiting for an outbreak to occur in the Arklay Mountains or in Raccoon City. Why would Spencer risk such a thing, when they have yet to develop the stand alone biological weapon he wants. Wesker keeps questioning why, why, and why.

Wesker's collection of Combat Data and Biological Samples (viruses, parasites, and antibodies) give him a lot of leverage, in which to satisfy his possible curiosity, rivalry, or conflict with Spencer. Who knows, perhaps it'll end in a no holds barred war between them, or he'll turn out to be the defender of the world against Spencer.

Though, I think the only part that should be included, is the Fact that he asks himself these questions.

Mark4011 01:13, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmm.. A thought occurs to me. Where Umbrella has at the very least been woefully incompotent, negelgant, or whatever else you'd call it. (Namely how close to a population center they dropped a chemical weapons lab, and how poorly they prepared for what looked like a likely scenario) But Wesker has always been cool, calm, compotent and from the looks of things he's yet to fail due to a perosnal error. Frankly, i'd rather not let him be in charge of Umbrella, the Corporation, or anything else.. He'd be far too good at it. Bluegrime 07:59, 4 July 2006 (UTC) Bluegrime

Early life and career

This section needs badly rewritten - most of it is incorrect. Birkin and Wesker didn't work on the T-virus while Marcus worked on his - they only started working on the T virus at Arklay AFTER Marcus was killed and they stole his research, ie they continued it. Parjay 22:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Birkin and Wesker did work on the T-Virus... Rather pretty much all of Umbrella did. It's all because of the ambiguity of Spencer's dream virus. The thing Spencer wanted, was something that came from the Founder/Progenitor/Mother Virus that had the capability of eradicating populations. The T-Virus was just an unnamed goal at the time. Birkin and Wesker did work with Marcus. They did do work in trying to devlop the T-Virus with and without Marcus. It's like two individuals trying to invent a device that stores electrical energy. Though one was the first to create one and name it a battery, did not the other also work on creating the battery whether individually, cooperatively, or both?

But on the other hand, Marcus was the one to come up with splicing leech genes onto the virus in secret. He created and named the Tyrant-Virus, though one or more people kept trying to spy on his work. He was eventually killed by Birkin and Wesker and his research continued. (However Marcus' work seemed to stop researching on ways to surpass the T-Virus but rather focused on experiments on his evolving T-Virus Leeches. Not that Birkin and Wesker ever continued this particular line of research.)

Source: Resident Evil 4 (GCN) - Marcus' Diary 1

August 19th

"Spencer keeps asking me to be the director of his new training facility. Maybe it's because of the business, but he's becoming intolerably pushy. Maybe I can turn this to my advantage. I need a special facility to properly explore all the secrets of this virus. A place where no one will get in the way..."

Source: Resident Evil 0 (GCN) - Assistant Director's Diary

September 2nd

"A useless bunch of trainees, as always. Where does headquarters find these idiots? We did get a couple of decent ones though, so I guess I can`t complain. William and Albert. They might have a future."

September 25th

"Scholar Will. Practical Al. They really are opposites. And they`re always competitive in everything they do. There`s something ruthless and cruel about them both..."

October 7th

"Got a sudden call from the director. It was to tell me to encourage a rivalry between those two! It`s the first time since this training facility was built that director Marcus has ever shown interested in anything other than his research. Well, whatever. Orders are orders. I am going to have them tearing at each other`s throats."

Source: Resident Evil 4 (GCN) - Marcus' Diary 1

September 19th

"At last...I`ve discovered a way to build a new virus type with Progenitor as a base. Mixing it with leech DNA was the breakthrough I needed. I call this new virus T, for 'tyrant.'"

February 11th

"Today, I again found evidence of tampering around the entrance to the labs. If that`s what they`re after, I must find a suitable way to deal with them. Perhaps I should have William and Albert smoke out the pests... Those two are the only ones I trust. Apart from my beloved leeches, of course. But Spencer... it wouldn`t end there, would it? I will announce T at the next directors meeting and collect my just rewards..."

Source: Wesker's Report 2 (Bonus) - Story 1

July 31st, 1978

Wesker narrates his and Birkin's arrival at Arclay Laboratory, the main base for realizing Ozwell E. Spencer's dream of the "Human Biological Weapon" from the Founder Virus. The first virus would be known eventually as the T-Virus. (Remember this is an report/anecdote of Wesker's memories and is told in the past tense.) Already Wesker and Birkin had thought genes from the Ebola Virus could help, and discovered Ebola samples already awaiting them as well as a unique test subject.

Source: Resident Evil 4 (GCN) - Marcus' Flashback

1988 (in flashback)

Marcus was assassinated in 1988 by Albert Wesker and William Birkin & the USF under orders from Ozwell E. Spencer. Wesker & Birkin tell the dying Marcus that they will continue his work. Though probably not before Spencer recives a copy to disseminate throughout Umbrella.

Mark4011 04:44, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Birkin and Wesker did work on the T-Virus... Rather pretty much all of Umbrella did.

No one said that they HADN'T; its the timeline of WHEN, in question. Originally, they worked on the "Mother Virus" (you can't say it was the T-virus as that wasn't even CREATED by then, sure they worked on a CONCEPT of creating a weapon, but they worked on the Mother Virus; the T-virus was CREATED by splicing the Mother Virus with Leech DNA:

At last...I`ve discovered a way to build a new virus type with Progenitor as a base. Mixing it with leech DNA was the breakthrough I needed. I call this new virus T, for 'tyrant.'

Most of your posted "evidence" from the game only supports what we already know: that Wesker and Birkin where TRAINED at Marcus' facility; this doesnt mean they worked on the virus there. Once Marcus died, they stole it and continued research on the T-VIRUS (note, they worked on the MOTHER VIRUS at Arklay until this happened) at Arklay.

Parjay 13:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't really promoting either of the two interpretations, I was just trying to express the two interpretations into words. Those sources I listed was not meant as evidence for me, but purely a matter of convenience to all.

I'd have to agree with you on all your points because thats what I said earlier, or at least meant to say and if thats the case I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. I made it quite clear that the concept of the T-Virus was a "unnamed goal at the time" in my first paragraph. The whole point of that interpretation that was that they indeed worked on the "concept", which is what Wesker refers to as the T-Virus Project in the past tense in the future.

But I digress, this is purely a difference of defintions. I had no intentions on starting a debate on the actual T-Virus strain itself, nor do I wish to start one now. I merely felt I had to try to explain my reasoning behind my first interpretation.

You are right. Everone may have worked on the concept, but Birkin & Wesker only worked on the Strain after they stole it from Marcus.

Mark4011 14:37, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Trivia question

It states that the picture in Wesker’s stats screen “after succesfully using him in merc mode” is him back in the days when he worked with Birkin in the lab. I presume the editor is talking about the picture after completing a mercenary level where it displays your ranking and such, but I don’t see anything that suggests it was Wesker in his lab days, as he’s wearing the same outfit he is in Resident Evil 4, and I don’t see anything else suggesting that. Is there another picture I’m unaware of or should this be fixed? T.K.R. 10:01, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay... Why is my part about Wesker appearing as a zombie, in the Sega Saturn version of the original Resident Evil, need to be cited? There is a link there to prove it and two pictures of him as the zombie. - *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 23:22, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

It needs to be cited to a reliable source, which Crunkgames and and random Geocities sites are not. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 23:24, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay. What about the two pictures I had provided? I mean, it took me forever to find them... and yes, they are on my on webpage account. Because I wanted to re-size them for others to view at a larger size. - *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 23:28, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Frankly? It's not a significant fact, considering that no reliable source has ever felt the need to comment on it. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 23:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Surviving Villians

Wesker is the only villain who managed to survive the Umbrella Corp. period of the Resident Evil series. (Another villain who potentially survived is Spencer but this scenario is not yet confirmed.)

What about Nicholai? Been a while since I played RE3, but close to the end I remember a scene where he was in a helicopter and you had a choice to either fight him or talk with him, and, IIRC, the 'talk with him' option ended with him living through the game. And in Survivor you can find files written by him after the incident. So I'm going to add him in with the remark about Spencer for now, unless someone says something otherwise. Ynos 18:35, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

In the main ending/good ending for Nemesis he is either ripped in half by Nemesis or he is killed by you.If he escapes you got the bad ending.

"Undercover policeman"

Whereas previously he seemed to function as an undercover policeman, his role within the Resident Evil world now seems more akin to that of an experienced spy, or even super villain.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he a top researcher at the Arklay Mountain lab? Calling him an "undercover policeman" makes it sound like he was a mere grunt in the first game.--Foot Dragoon 01:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

True, get rid of it. --Jack of Blades 16:39, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

In other Media

I have added new information reguarding the speculations and information that other Resident Evil fans have provided on forums about Albert Wesker and his involvment in Resident Evil, etc. I feel that this section can be used as a way to express one's opinions and thoughts about Albert Wesker and what is in store for him. However, the only rule is to have some kind of reference to back up their claims or thoughts, online or offline. That is if they want to keep their post up, or present and write it in a manner that is feasible. :) - *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 21:58, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a place for speculation or forum information. The only time something should be added is if there is distinct, clear, linkable cause to do so. "Thoughts", "opinions" and "claims" are unencyclopedic and do not belong on wikipedia. Ex-Nintendo Employee 22:15, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Then "In other Media" shouldn't be a section. Because whether it's rumor or not, or if it can be linked or not... It's still genuine media. - *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 22:26, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

If you want to include it, please please put references that aren't fan musing. Statements like "Most fans speculate", "Many fans believe" and "fans believe" are not acceptable backings for your paragraphs. Fancruft speculates a lot of things, but that doesn't mean that every fan speculation is encyclopedic or should be placed here. An "In Other Media" has merit, but the fan speculation has to go. And, please, study Wikipedia's guidelines- if you can't link to it (or provide published reference), then it does not belong here. Ex-Nintendo Employee 22:32, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I understand what you are stating, but not everything can be linked back because sometimes the internet doesn't provide it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have a reference to go with it. It just means it's offline, and besides. I am not the only one on here that edits and writes about information or speculations without a link to go with it. However, I'll do what I can to provide whatever I can for the "In other media" section. But for the most part, a lot of it can only be viewed offline. Such as the Resident Evil Archives book. - *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 22:38, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

If you can't link to it, then just provide the book it comes from. If it's not linked or in a book, it doesn't go on Wikipedia. Please read this section here- Citing_sources, it provides the basis for Wikipedia's rules regarding content. Ex-Nintendo Employee 22:43, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I did. Most of it came from the Resident Evil Archives book, by Bradly Games, and there is no other way to view these facts or the content of the book. Because there isn't a source online that would provide it. However, I appreciate your help and advise. :) - *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 22:46, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

To add any information that comes from the aforementioned Archives book, cite it rather than stating "fans speculate" or "rumors say". A published source is a published source and is valid. Ex-Nintendo Employee 22:49, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah, alright. I'll see what I can do to prove some of the contents that are in the Archives book. As for the other information, I know I have seen them on other sites. But my room mate was the one that found them. Anyways, give me some time to find them in order to prove these theories to be facts or apart of a decent media. :P *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 22:53, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

You're dumping unverified and unverifiable fan speculation on this article, when what it needs very badly is to have the plot summary reduced drastically. Please don't just dump content from RE Archives or other books;instead, find third-party analysis or commentary in reliable sources (so, not the creators talking to the fans, but books or articles or similar written by people other than the creators) and use that to write this article. Right now, it's nothing but recapping bits and pieces of plot from the RE games, and that's unacceptable.- A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 23:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually, not all of them was fan speculations. There are two parts of it that happen to be true. One: The fact that Peter O'Meara will be playing the part of Albert Wesker in Extinction has been verified. (and writen by another user). Two: There are sources that state that Wesker will be in Resident Evil 5 and that he will not be the main antagious. For this resource that Wesker will be in 5, and the other parts, (except about the movie) I will leave out until I can find the reasources for them either online or offline. - *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 23:17, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Verified by whom? I removed a ton of unverified junk, not just yours. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 23:21, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

By "Gamehead" on Spike Tv. Which you can find the videos of the show on http//www.youtube.com . They were the first video game show that was on the set of Extinction. Plus, there is another site that has verified this. I can't think of it now, but I'll go get the site. - *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 23:25, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

What episode? Aired when? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 23:26, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

hehe... Here's the url for the video that comfirms that Albert Wesker will be in the next movie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrGS-YefHOs So check it out. ;) - *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 23:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC) (PS. As for who the actor is, I am working on it.)

I don't want to see it, I want to cite it. What episode of the show? When did it air? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 23:35, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Try typing in the YouTube search "Resident Evil Gamehead Part 2" , and don't worry about citing. I have already did that for you. :) - *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 23:38, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

A random Youtube video is not a reliable source. I want to cite this to a reliable source, so that someone who wants to verify this claim can do so in a source that is reliable (unlike a site where anyone can upload anything). If it can't be cited, it's not going in. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 23:40, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

lol.. You got to be kidding me? The director of the film himself, states that Wesker will be in the next Resident Evil movie, in the video of Gamehead. - *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 23:49, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Then, by all means, find out when the show aired, and use {{cite visual}} or {{cite interview}} to cite it. Or, you could tell me when it aired and/or what episode of Gamehead that is, and I can cite it. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 23:56, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Dude, I have given you two solid links that proves that Wesker will be appearing in the next Resident Evil movie, and that Peter O'Meara will be playing the part. But you keep on insisting that it isn't a faction because they aren't feasible references by your own standards. I don't know why you don't think the video is evential enough to be proof, and the site that I had provided, which is a timeline of the actor's career, and what movies, TV. shows he's taken part in? You can look this up in any search engine, and it'll state the same thing. - *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 00:04, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

You may want to read WP:V, and do keep going past the title. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

These aren't just A Man In Bl♟ck's standards, *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.*, they're Wikipedia's standards, guidelines which we all agreed to follow when we began to contribute to the site. If there are references to your items, it should be easy to reference it in the method requested- which episode? When did it air? I don't understand why you're having such difficulty in providing references. Ex-Nintendo Employee 00:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Please also bear in mind that Wikipedia has rules against reverting the article more than three times in 24 hours- I would seriously suggest that you try and discuss this instead of just reverting it, ShadowFox. Ex-Nintendo Employee 00:15, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

"You may want to read WP:V, and do keep going past the title." - A Man In Black

-.- What's with the insults? Did I lower my standards when I was speaking to you in my last entry? Because I see nothing of the sort. As for the information I had provided with the sites, and video... It seems that nothing I had for reference seems to be not good enough, and if these are the rules of Wikipedia, then this source isn't the best to turn to. Although, I am still continuing on my search to find anything else that could be used. (I am looking for the facts of the episode of Gamdhead, etc.) Anyways, thank you for your advise once again, Ex-Nintendo. - *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 00:30, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Ada as a double agent in RE4?

As many times as I watch Ada's Report 5 the wording suggests that Wesker and Ada are both "The Organization" operatives as they have been since Wesker's second employment was established in CV, and even as far back as Resident Evil 2. Then Wesker had contacted another organization repeatedly the "Pharmaceutical Giant S." Then judging from Wesker's loyalty history either Ada or "The Organization" decided not to give him an actual sample.

Did I miss a point where Ada claims she worked for "S" initially? If not I think Ada's and Wesker's article needs to be corrected to suggest Wesker is at least working toward double (triple?) crossing "The Organization" rather than saying Ada is working for "The Organization" against Wesker's goal since the report introduces "S" rather than "The Organization."Wildodeelf 09:21, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Opening paragraph.

Am I the only one who finds the opening paragraph a little lengthy? Surely things could be a little more summed up than that, especially considering that it lists a few things that are further detailed in the article that follows. Huelenrite 5:28 07 September 2007.

Why didn't Waugh voice act Wesker in the Remake and The Umbrella Chronicles?

The title says it all. Is there any real information regarding the reasons as to why Waugh did not voice Wesker in the two games? I find it odd that he does Wesker in Code Veronica, then does not do it Remake, does it again in Zero and 4, but then again does not do it in the Umbrella Chronicles. I have heard rumours that Waugh did not voice act Wesker in the two games because of union issues, but I don't know if this is true or not. Regards, --Kurt Leyman (talk) 07:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I know why:He blew up.Jesus I don't know why and I know like no one else knows why.The rumours could be true or maybe he just quit or somefink. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.100.151.129 (talk) 23:54, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

According to an interview, the guys who localized Resident Evil decided to just use Voice Actor Unions and so had to get rid of him since he was non-union. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 11:12, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Red Queen

I noticed that this article refers to "Red Queen" as "the Red Queen." In the Umbrella Chronicles, Sergei calls the computer "Red Queen", so what is its real name? "Red Queen" or "the Red Queen"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mavrickindigo (talk • contribs) 18:26, 31 December 2007 (UTC) "the" doesn't matter.It's just Red Queen.Don't get your panties all in a bunch.

In Revelations?

Has anyone else seen the trailer for the 3DS game Resident Evil: Revelations? In it, Jill Valentine and Chris Redfield seem to be at each others throats over an unidentified prisoner. Although there's no certainty, the prisoner has short blond hair and an incredibly superior attitude toward Jill and Chris. It seems like Wesker to me, and I think it's enough to warrant a mention on this page (with an 'unconfirmed' statement, of course). What do others think? Legionaireb (talk) 16:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Masachika Kawata, the game's producer, confirmed that Wesker perished in Resident Evil 5's finale.[2]

You blind or something?--74.131.90.203 (talk) 04:17, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Revelations takes place before Resident Evil 5. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 11:13, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Posssible reference?

Is it possible that Wesker was/is intended to be something of a pastiche of English rock singer Graham Bonnet? Given that Bonnet maintains a large following in Japan to this day, it could well be the case. Just a thought, anyhow. 121.223.165.18 (talk) 03:44, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

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Resident Evil 7

I have removed the information regarding Wesker's alleged performance in Resident Evil 7: Biohazard. While the sources given state that someone found data in the game suggesting there will be a character called 'Albert' in Resident Evil 7. There is no further conclusive evidence or official statement from CapCom given whether this will in fact be Albert Wesker.

• One of the sources, TrendMedia is an article that has been almost entirely plagiarized from a small blog - Yibada. Again this article does not offer any official evidence.
• LOD Tech does not even discuss how Wesker was allegedly discovered to be in Resident Evil 7. It mentions nothing about the data-mining nor the fact the leak only pointed to just a character named 'Albert'.
• Two other sources, Playstation Lifestyle and EuroGamer, offers the same claims: A character named 'Albert', assumed to be Wekser.
• The actual data dump from NeoGAF Forums (which is apparently the source of the leak), even states that this is a character just named 'Albert', claiming "LastBossAlbert(NO RELATION TO WESKER, sounds like it's just his guns appear in the game". Almost every instance of 'Albert' in the dump is a reference to an item.

Unless there is something more concrete, Wesker's appearance in Resi 7 is speculation at this point. Three sources based on rumors and speculation do not classify as reliable sources. Rumors and speculative theories from un-reliable sources are considered original research. Wesker could in fact be in the game, but we would need something official and clear to validate this. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  06:07, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

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Release... what?

> Wesker returns in Resident Evil 5 conspiring with the pharmaceutical division of the TRICELL conglomerate as a means to create the "Uroboros virus", an enhanced virus derived from the Progenitor virus, with which he ultimately plans to release into the Earth's atmosphere.

> with which he ultimately plans to release into the Earth's atmosphere.

That needs to be corrected by someone, but I'm not sure I know what was intended. Release.... what? Francis2559 (talk) 01:47, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

It has been tidied up for now, but the entire section really needs a re-write. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  13:54, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

The section has been completely re-written to remove an in-universe tone and better comply with WP:WAF. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  15:13, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

StarScream1007 Just letting you know that your userpage needed update since Tyrant (Resident Evil) and became Mr. X (Resident Evil). Wish the character has development/concept and design info. If it has, I would definitely improve the article overall and willing to make it to GA. GlatorNator (ᴛ) 22:49, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I'll see what I can drum up for a development/design section. I'd agree it would be a welcome addition to this article. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  13:42, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

@GlatorNator:, I've added Design/Concept section. It's a bit rough and may need another cope edit from another editor. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  20:29, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Impressive work, thou I guess working on it was really hard especially how notorious Albert Wesker is and theres a lot to expand [1] [2] [3] [4] [5], I should have said to work on Merchant (Resident Evil) concept and design instead of this article (both are hard to find sources since they are old characters). Sorry about this. Because working on articles, the concept and design section is the most difficult when it comes to Resident Evil, thus me unable to improve them. Anyway, I requested it already for copy edit [6] and ill attempt slowly to expand at receotion section after the GAN of Lady Dimitrescu. Meanwhile, I am also arent sure with the Ada Wong concept and design section since its a bit short. GlatorNator (ᴛ) 22:03, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

I have added all the sources above that I listed, thou I have no idea how to implement this huge article on Polygon [7]. It talks about the history of Nazi. GlatorNator (ᴛ) 04:09, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

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Reviewer: Cukie Gherkin (talk · contribs) 22:28, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

@Cukie Gherkin: Hey, it seems like you forgot about GlatorNator's GAN here. Thought I'd ping you just in case. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:26, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

I asked Glator to make sure that the article does everything that I suggested with Ada Wong (if it isn't already fulfilling those suggestions) and to ping me when he's verified this to be the case. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 22:28, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

OK. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:32, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Cukie Done implementing mostly from Portrayal. I think it is ready for the review. Thanks. GlatorNator (ᴛ) 23:11, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Cukie Gherkin Expanded. Done. GlatorNator (ᴛ) 22:00, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

User:Cukie Gherkin psst. GlatorNator (ᴛ) 16:18, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   c. (OR):

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   b. (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

Infobox

1. Isao and Jun having designed Wesker is both unsourced and not included outside of the infobox.
2. Fumihiko Tachiki having voiced Wesker is unsourced and only in the infobox.
3. Junichi, Ilram, and Yoshio having done motion capture for Wesker is unsourced and only in the infobox.

Lead

1. Condensed it some.

Concept and design

1. A fair bit of this seems to be an overemphasis on explaining the plot summary and details surrounding Wesker. It feels kind of messy and undirected, and

Portrayal

1. I reckon that it'd be best to keep every portrayal together; for instance, it goes Douglas, then Jessop, and D. C. again.
2. A good piece of advice is to try to avoid using the same name at the beginning of multiple sentences in a row. So, instead of starting two sentences with Douglas, have the second sentence start with he, just to avoid repetition.
3. I think it may be worthwhile to pare down any roles where an actor's portrayal of Wesker isn't specifically discussed in an RS. To me, if an RS doesn't specifically note that Douglas voices Wesker in Tenpen, you may as well drop it. It also contributes to the list feeling like it's just listing things off.
4. Eurogamer source doesn't specify that Craig provided motion capture footage.
5. On that note, I think that you could just as well do the same with motion capture, paring it down and, say, only mention that they provided motion capture, but not mention the games they did motion capture for. It's not really a detail that matters that much.
6. A lot of the same criticisms can be applied to the film portrayal paragraph.

Appearances

1. As I note below in the References section, PSU is not listed as a reliable source, making much of the content unreferenced in effect. Additionally, I spotted some information that is not cited properly. For example, text cited to IGN makes allusions to many details of RE5, but the link itself doesn't mention him dying in a volcano, or Uroboros, or Chris and Sheva. I'm concerned that a lot of the article is improperly sourced.

Reception

At a glance, you seem to have taken a lot of the criticism from the Ada Wong GAN to heart. There's still some issues, like unreliable sources and grammar (the latter which I can help with).

References

1. Try to find a different source than Behind the Voice Actors.
2. PlayStation Universe is not identified as a reliable source.

Images

1. Nothing to note.

Ultimately, I feel like this article would be a lot of work to get up to snuff, and I don't know that I have the time or energy to really assist and properly review it. I'm going to quickfail this, as it's going to be a lot of work. I'll do a copyedit for you when I can, but the other issues I think will need more time. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 03:27, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Leave the article as is. I think you were right that the article still contains a lot of issues like grammar. I have no problem for it quickfailing. StarScream1007, pinging co nom so he will be aware. Thank you for the time Cukie. GlatorNator (ᴛ) 04:32, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

GOCE copy edit notes

• I removed a few sentences that were tangential.
• I left one {{clarify}} tag.
• I found and fixed one improperly linked source in the references; double check that all of the cites are good.
• Some of the sections appear to bleed into each other, particularly the portrayals and appearances sections, but I'm not quite sure how things should be reorganized or what should go in one section as opposed to the other.
• Some of the ref names appear to be a little vague. Per WP:REFNAME: A common practice is to use the author-year or publisher-year for the reference name. This helps editors remember the name, by associating it with the information that is visible to the reader.

voorts (talk/contributions) 19:02, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the help! I also appreciate the note about REFNAME. I always thought it was for internal/editor use only. I also went ahead and addressed the point that needed clarification in the plot summary. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  20:38, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

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Reviewer: Premeditated Chaos (talk · contribs) 09:50, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

In a minute day or two, this review will be released into the atmosphere, ensuring complete global penetration. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 09:50, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Lead and Concept

• Lead looks good on first read
• I'm not sure it's great practice to open the entire body of the article with a huge blockquote. I would recommend moving it to a side box at least, especially since it duplicates content that's already in the article and cited to the same source
• Not sure you need 4 refs for Wesker's clothing
• I would move the last two sentences in "Concept" para 2 (starting with "He was designed to thematically contrast...") to the next paragraph, which concerns RE5.
• Then I would revise that paragraph to start with Wesker being the primary villain, go into how he was designed to contrast Chris: maybe something like, "Wesker serves as the primary antagonist in Resident Evil 5. His design for that game was updated to contrast with Chris, who is the game's protagonist." Then get into their personality conflict or whatever.
• As a side note, can you clarify how Wesker was designed to contrast with Chris in RE5? What changed relative to his previous depictions?
• Link Sheva?

Portrayal

• The portrayal subsection feels long enough that it could be its own section. I would also suggest moving it down past Appearances, since it seems most logical to discuss the character in the order of how he was developed, then appearances/plot summary, then move on to how he was portrayed and by whom in what games.
  • This would allow you to trim the fat, as currently the Appearances and Portrayals sections overlap and repeat each other somewhat. Make the Appearances section solely a summary of the in-universe plot, and save the IRL details for Portrayals so there's a clear delineation of what goes where and why.
  • That would also make it tidier to split the portrayal section into two sections for "Main games" and "other appearances" (or whatever you want to call the sections), which I think would make things clearer
• Since Jason O'Mara isn't mentioned until well into the Portrayals section, the image of O'Mara should be moved down so as to not be confusing
• If Ken Lally did mocap for Wesker, why is Douglas pictured with mocap dots? Did they both do mocap for him? Needs clarified
• "In Dead by Daylight..." this paragraph starts with a couple of English VAs, then whips over to Japanese VAs in...movies? it doesn't say?, then back over to (I think?) mocap guys? This really needs to be organized better and provide context.
• Then in the next paragraph we're back to English VAs in a game film we've already mentioned the Japanese VA for.
• Frankly I'm not even sure it's necessary to mention the dub VAs for the live action films, since it's not like we list every international dub voice for live-action English films, and I don't see any RS coverage of the dub performance specifically.

Appearances

• I don't really know the sourcing situation, but is there anything that covers Wesker's fictional bio for before the games started? (I don't know if it's intended as a complete mystery or if the info exists somewhere)
• "Afterwards, Wesker continues to sell viral agents and BOWs on the black market." needs a ref
• I tweaked some wording here and there. In para 3 of "In Resident Evil series", the last line doesn't fit with the rest of the paragraph. Why would his appearance in a separate canon matter to his permadeath in the game series? It should be moved down into "films"
• Opening sentence of Para 4 doesn't make sense. It says "Wesker also appears in other game series", but then describes Resident Evil games
• Not sure I love the reliance on primary sourcing for "Other appearances" - for example, does it matter if Wesker appeared in an amateur film if no independent sourcing reported on it?
• Lead mentions novelizations but they're nowhere in the text.

Reception

• To be honest, I think this reception section could do with a lot of reworking. In general, you get the best results when you organize a reception section by theme, and I really think doing that would help here.
• The opening paragraph is a series of positive affirmations about Wesker, with no apparent narrative flow or organizing principle. We talk about his appearance in MVC3 before we talk about his presence in the mainline games, which ought to be more important.
• There's a lot of lengthy quotes that I think could be trimmed down and paraphrased. Overquoting gets in the way of encyclopedic writing and can be distracting to the reader. Better to save only the punchiest, most interesting bits for quoting.
• Was there any reception of his appearances in particular games? What about his earlier appearances? Currently we have a bunch of "best of" type quotes and some comments about his death, but not much about his reception earlier
• I suspect the opening sentence about "top villain lists" or whatever could be revised so that it isn't like, 6 refs for a single sentence. Why is Guinness being called out specifically over any other gaming publication? Why cite two GamesRader listicles?
• We don't really need to quote the titles of articles we're citing
• "comparing him with other video game villains including Bowser and Sephiroth" - it would be interesting to know what specific facets of these two they compared Wesker to
• Similarly, he defines what it means to be a villain in RE? Do they say what aspects of him they consider definitive?
• The entire quote about MVC3 is extraneous - it's a really lengthy way of saying that GamesRadar likes Wesker
• How does Wesker's death scene "show the character's strength"? That feels like an odd thing to say, normally death indicates weakness
• The second part of the GamingBolt quote comes out of nowhere - when did we start talking about bringing Wesker back?
• The Nazi aesthetic comment from Polygon is really interesting - it surprises me that it's the only comment on his physical character design.
• People reading this article may not be familiar with Agent Smith, and it's not really useful to the reader to quote a comparison without any context to why he's being compared
• I'm not sure that people being mad he wasn't in RE4: Mercs counts as negative reception
• Is there no reception of anyone else's portrayal of him live action?

This is, frankly, going to need a lot of work before it can pass GA. I understand that it's been through GA1 and a GOCE copyedit, but it still feels unpolished and disorganized. I'm also extremely dubious about the reliance on primary sources and listicles; although that isn't a GACR, I suspect it's not helping. Better sourcing might provide better material to mine from. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 11:23, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

StarScream1007 Hey. Seems like the article has tons of issues. Unfortunately, life is getting bussier. I could help if you're still working on this slowly. Any plan on what to do now? GreenishPickle! (🔔) 14:11, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you taking the time to review the article and offer constructive feedback. It's very helpful, but sadly, I'm also fairly busy and won't have time to work on this for a week for so. You can end the GA2 Review as a fail for now. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  15:26, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunate - I would've been happy to wait. Hopefully the feedback will be useful to you in the future at least. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:12, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

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Reception problem

Hey StarScream1007. I believe we already have fixed most of the issues. But, one there's a problem with the reception section. On previous GAN, concerns like "Was there any reception of his appearances in particular games? What about his earlier appearances? Currently we have a bunch of "best of" type quotes and some comments about his death, but not much about his reception earlier" is not a good thing to hear when Wesker doesn't have that much reception and I couldn't find more sadly. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 00:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

D: It's getting harder and harder to find good sources. Here are some more I dug up.

:* Eurogamer - RE5 commentary: "Chris and Wesker's final showdown is both a terrible boss fight and unforgettable, because despite the faults it showcases a certain mindset about what an ultimate action climax should be. " (Ref #43, being used for plot info)

• Gamespot - RE4 DLC commentary on Voice acting: "its other cast, especially Albert Wesker, who seems to be carrying the weight of the franchise's theatrics in every airy line he delivers, and somehow it still works." - Not sure how to use this or if its relevant?

:* Gamespot - RE: Umbrella Chronicles: "The voice acting is a better fit, with the role of Albert Wesker, who serves as the game's narrator, being particularly entertaining."

:* IGN - RE: Umbrella Chronicles: "you've also got side quests that open up along the way, so you'll have a chance to fill in the gaps of the story as the main plot unfolds. Some of our favorite in the bunch revolve around Wesker"

 StarScream1007  ►Talk  18:16, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Besides Eurogamer, I'm not quite sure how good are the other ones, but I guess we will give it a shot. This and Claire Redfield both have a flimsy reception section sadly. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 22:08, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

(Update) finished implementing the sources, thou there is still one problem "Is there no reception of anyone else's portrayal of him live action?" Ehh, I mean RE films are not blowing up and their awful so maybe we should ignore it? Anyway, wdyt, let me know if its ready for another GAN attempt? GreenishPickle! (🔔) 01:51, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

I found one viable review (from IGN) that specifically addresses Wesker. Everything else (that's currently available) blasts the films entirely or is a fan blog. I think we're close. It may be worth putting it up for GAN. I'll continue to run through PMC's notes to see if we missed anything. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  02:54, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I've left a message on their talk page before sending this article to GAN again. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 02:57, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

My free time is dwindling, fearing that I couldn't be active anymore starting at the 2nd week of April. So, sending this to GAN right away. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 03:56, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

No prob. Sorry for the late reply. I should be around to help out. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  22:57, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

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Nominator: Greenish Pickle! (talk · contribs) and StarScream1007 (talk · contribs) 03:57, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Pokelego999 (talk · contribs) 01:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Will take this on hopefully sometime tomorrow or within the coming days. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Six GA Criteria

1. Article is well-written. A few typos and iffy wordings here and there but nothing too overly detrimental.

2. No OR, all info is cited in the article.

3. Coverage is broad, but rather weak in places. It feels like a weird limbo between there and not that I can't really describe.

4. Article appears neutral, and does not appear to hold a significantly negative nor positive stance on the subject.

5. Article appears stable. Any vandalism was minor and dealt with days before the GAR.

6. Article uses one fair use image with proper rationale.

Lead

-What is the Racoon Police Department? Specify a bit.  Done

-Same for the Umbrella Corporation. Specify that they're a villainous organization.  Done

-"Several actors have portrayed Wesker, including Jason O'Mara, Shawn Roberts, Tom Hopper, and Lance Reddick in the live-action Resident Evil series." Did all of them portray him in live action, or just Reddick? They indeed are. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 00:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Concept and design

-Minor nitpick, but perhaps you could include a multi-image infobox with all of his live action actors? It feels a bit odd having only O'Mara there.  Done

Appearances

-Do we need to know the locations of every Resident Evil game featuring Wesker?

•  Done removing it.

Critical Reception

-"She also said that since Nietzche passed away a few years before the Nazi Party was founded, he was unable to personally propose his theory to them, but his sister did. Subsequently, the Nazi Party used the concept of the Übermensch to uphold white supremacy." This is just a history recap that isn't too relevant to Wesker.  Done removing it.

-Source 66 feels more like a source discussing the Umbrella Chronicles more than anything related to Wesker's character.  Done removing it.

-"Jesse Schedeen of IGN discussed his appearances across the franchise, in which she said that Wesker is "the best bad guys are the ones that wear shades."" Quote doesn't work due to lack of grammar.  Done fixing it.

-I worry the Forbes source is more about Reddick as an actor than Wesker, given Wesker is mentioned for all of two lines. I feel the Afterlife source is also a bit trivial, but given it's supporting wider points, I'm not entirely against it.  Not done, maybe it should be fine.

Overall

I feel iffy on this article. On the one hand, it's not terrible, and mostly meets criteria, but it feels a step removed from a true Good Article. I'm not going to fail this yet, but I feel a second opinion would be greatly valued here, so I've requested for one to be given. To whoever answers this, I'd like just a general judge of the article, as I'm just not quite certain if this article meets the criteria or not. The sourcing feels weak in spots, and yet doesn't feel outright terrible, and I'm not quite sure what to make of it. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

No problem. I am aware that the sourcing at the reception looks a bit flimsy. The same thing as other iconic characters like Bulbasaur. We tried to find more, but we just couldn't unlike other RE characters sadly. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 00:38, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm not faulting it in any way, but I'm having trouble deciding myself here. Sourcing's at a point where I'm torn between "This is solid, but..." Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:50, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Several additions have already been implemented at reception [8] [9]. If you're still a bit iffy, I understand =) 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 00:30, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Honestly these sources are both very good, and I honestly feel you could probably expand on the Reception from both. I'm honestly a bit more confident in this article now, especially via the Escapist source, which gives a lot of commentary beyond the Smith comparison. For the Destructoid source, I'd expand on the writer's thoughts on Wesker's battle, and with the Escapist source, I would include a direct quote, for instance "Wesker is basically Agent Smith in The Matrix – a perfect villain for the first story, but so effective that directors kept making him more powerful in sequels, even when doing so made no sense...Wesker wears so many hats across the series that his presence has been stripped of power – he’s just a generic antagonist to introduce when the stakes must be artificially raised." And I'm sure you could include a lot more from it. I'm willing to remove the request for additional opinions, since I'm feeling a bit more solid on Wesker now, but I do hope you take my advice on those two sources, given I feel they have untapped potential. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Correction, it is a Den of Geek source not Destructoid. Pinging @StarScream1007 so he is aware. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 00:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Ah, my apologies. But yeah, I did mean the Den of Geek source when I referenced Destructoid. Sorry for the confusion. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Done. Expanded both. The escapist one is rephrased it in order to avoid copyvio violation. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 01:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I rephrased your Escapist quote since you accidentally left in some direct quotation from the source. In any case, the expansion looks good overall. I'd remove the last sentence from the direct quote in the Den of Geek source due to it not really contributing much to the overall commentary, but after that, I think I'd be happy to pass the article. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:11, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Done removing it. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 01:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 17:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that it has been noted that Albert Wesker's character design evokes the aesthetic of the Nazi ideal of the Übermensch, reflecting the series' "core" theme of eugenics? Source: https://www.polygon.com/22444608/resident-evil-horror-eugenics-military-government-themes
  • ALT1: ... that Albert Wesker has been compared with Agent Smith, a villain in the The Matrix? Source: https://www.escapistmagazine.com/resident-evil-needs-a-reboot/
  • ALT2: ... that Albert Wesker has been given a pair of black sunglasses as a concept to help differentiate him from the other Resident Evil characters? Source: https://www.pcgamer.com/resident-evil-and-the-birth-of-survival-horror/
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Created by Greenish Pickle! (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations. Article has been promoted into GA last week (7 days).

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🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 01:08, 27 April 2024 (UTC).

• Reviewing this:
• 1. Each boldlinked article is new enough.
• 2. Each boldlinked article is new enough.
• 3. Every source is reliable and approved by the project.
• 4. It is presentable.
• 5. Hook is presented with a reliable source.
• 6. ALT 2 seems more interesting than the other ones since it involves his creation and portrayal. The other ones seems to be interpretations of third party sources.
• 7. The two non-free images are given sources.
• 8. The user has less than 5 DYK nominations found.
• 9. There are no issues.

Good work.Tintor2 (talk) 16:28, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

@Tintor2: If this hook is approved, please post the green tick below, using this code: {{subst:DYKyes}}. If not, please add the question mark below, using this code: {{subst:DYK?}}. Thanks, Z1720 (talk) 16:47, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

The only issue I see is the hook. ALT 2 is the only written from a creator's pespective rather than third party source which will interest more people.Tintor2 (talk) 18:17, 13 May 2024 (UTC) @Greenish Pickle!: Pinging just in case. Sorry for the delay. It's been since I reviewed a DYK nomination. I think I already suggested ALT 2 in discord.Tintor2 (talk) 20:34, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

• Tintor2 Hey, I mean Alt 2 is fine. I don't have anything to do here actually. If you think Alt 2 is fine then you can replace it now with green tick like the user said above. Thanks. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 22:14, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Info on novelizations

The lede makes reference to Wesker appearing in novelizations, which are discussed in the "Other appearances" section. But that section brings up only the novelizations from the video games. I'm guessing Wesker also showed up in the novelizations of Extinction, Retribution, and The Final Chapter. Unless we alter that sentence to only mention the games, shouldn't the film novelizations be included in the list of references?

Sidenote; Wesker actually dies a pretty gruesome death in the novelization of the original game, which seems to be based on a non-canonical death he can experience in the original version of RE 1. Should that be discussed in the paragraph? I don't have access to the book, but someone could add the page numbers of his death scene. At the same time, unless a secondary sources deems it important enough to discuss it, I'm not 100% sure if we should bother mentioning it. Thoughts? PanagiotisZois (talk) 19:06, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Feel free to add it if you can find a source about it. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 22:27, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

I found the 2002 version on Google Books here: [10]. There are free (pirated) versions of the book online too. His "death" scene in chapter 19 is slightly more gruesome, but also slightly ambiguous. It's left open, and he survives the ordeal and appears in the novelization of Code Veronica. Not sure if it's worth adding, but I'm not opposed to it. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  17:03, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Go ahead and add it if you can. =) 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 17:16, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll try to see about the pages that should be cited. PanagiotisZois (talk) 18:13, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Critic misgendered in “Reception” section

Kazuma Hashimoto is referred to as “she” at the start of the Reception section. Clicking his byline in the linked article, we can clearly see that he is a man, and refers to himself as such: https://www.polygon.com/authors/kazuma-hashimoto

I think this is disrespectful and should be fixed, but this article is locked. Does anyone have the ability to fix this? 2600:1700:B038:2EE0:6C2A:3490:B454:E64A (talk) 12:21, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Looks like another editor has fixed this [11]. Thank you for noticing and suggesting the change. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:37, 19 August 2024 (UTC)