Talk:Chris Osgood

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Tone

Regarding the tone tag: "While his 1992-1993 season was spent with Adirondack, he broke through as a Detroit Red Wing in the 1993-1994 season, backstopping alongside a carousel of goaltenders for that season, including Tim Cheveldae, Vincent Riendeau, and Peter Ing. The glut of goaltenders forced the Wings to make a move at the trading deadline. Cheveldae, the team's primary starter and former all-star, was traded to the Winnipeg Jets along with Dallas Drake in exchange for veteran goaltender Bob Essensa and Sergei Bautin. Essensa did not have a strong showing in a 13-game stint at the end of the regular season, and Osgood was named the primary netminder for the playoffs."

I made a few changes already, but it's still prevalent throughout the article, and this paragraph serves as an example. "glut of goaltenders", "backstopping alongside a carousel..." Also, things like "Thus far, the 2007–08 season has been a return to form for Osgood.", a heading called "Back in Hockeytown".

So basically you would rather slap tags on the article than fix them.Asher196 (talk) 06:24, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Correct. As I said, I did make a few changes, but I am not willing to comb the entire article at this time. While someone obviously put a lot of work into it, there is serious abuse of weasel words, peacock words, and non-encyclopedic tone. Additionally, not a thing is sourced, with the exception of the change that you just made. That is why the tags exist, and is the proper usage of a tag. It's not as good as a complete overhaul, but it is a step above leaving the issues unnoted and uncorrected.68.147.134.6 (talk) 06:33, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Change in style.

[1]. Osgood mentioned how he changed from standup to a hybird-butterfly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TimHowardII (talk • contribs) 09:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ozzie as a nickname

I have now listed 4 sources, three of which specifically say "Ozzie" is a nickname. I'm not sure what criteria some people are using to define nickname, but since I can find many, many sources to back up my edits, I think I'm on pretty solid ground. Asher196 (talk) 22:05, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, if "Ozzie" keeps getting removed, I'll be happy to take this to Rfc. Asher196 (talk) 22:07, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Take it to Rfc. Will it help? who knows; will it hurt? nay. GoodDay (talk) 22:17, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is no longer an issue, since the nickname parameter has been removed from the template itself. Include it within the article if it is noteworthy, and I think it probably is. - Rjd0060 (talk) 22:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why was the nickname parameter removed? All Most all hockey players have a nickname and they are well documented, It's not simply calling everyone by last name like we did in high school (I grew up in Québec where you liked hockey or got beat up!) but each player has a unique nickname that follows them, some are truly un-inventive like "Gretz" for 99, others much more creative like "The Mule" (Johan Franzen). --That's Life, "Stuff" happens, people die, life goes on. (talk) 23:18, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nickname

"Wizard of Oz^[1]" Saving nickname for future use in article prose. -Djsasso (talk) 22:32, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ St. James, Helene (2008-05-29). "McCarty, Draper, Osgood ... those who stay will be champions". Detroit Free Press. Retrieved 2008-07-23. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

Other nickname

Ozzie^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4] Asher196 (talk) 23:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nickname

1 : a usually descriptive name given instead of or in addition to the one belonging to a person, place, or thing
2 : a familiar form of a proper name (as of a person or a city)

Whatever you want, you are just looking to be disruptive now. -Djsasso (talk) 02:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Actually I put in a heading, you edited MY contribution. -Djsasso (talk) 02:02, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just because it was under your heading doesn't make all comments under it fair game for you to refactor. Asher196 (talk) 02:04, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No but anyone is able to add headings to make the information more clear. You are just trying to make a WP:POINT at this point. -Djsasso (talk) 02:05, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please WP:AGF. I could just as easily say you are being disruptive. Just because I disagree with you doesn't make my comments disruptive. Asher196 (talk) 02:08, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When you revert without discussion on the talk page its hard to assume good faith. If I wasn't assuming good faith I wouldn't have tried to compromise with you. You however just blindly reverted and reverted and reverted a third time. And that's not even the reverts of various users on the article itself. -Djsasso (talk) 02:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted YOUR refactoring of MY edits. Asher196 (talk) 02:16, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Again I didn't touch your edits. Your words were still your own. Anyone can add headings to anyones comments. I did not change your words. You changed my edits. Anyways I will leave it as is. It's not worth the trouble arguing with someone who won't accept any way but their way. I'm done here. -Djsasso (talk) 02:17, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have a phrase for you. Its Psychological projection. You are the one who won't have it any other way. You've taken your crusade against a nickname all over Wikipedia, to the point where ALL nicknames have been removed from infoboxes. And you have the nerve to say I have a problem. Asher196 (talk) 02:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it was someone else that suggested removing them. I just have access to the program to make it easier to do and happened to agree with them. And for the most part where possible if they aren't already in the prose they are being added there so they aren't exactly being wiped out. It wasn't even me who reverted you the first couple times. I only did it the last time. Anyways neither of us are going to change our minds so we might as well let it drop. -Djsasso (talk) 02:29, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No need to fight; we can easily add something to the article that says, "The fans at home Red Wings games like to chant 'Ozzie' when Osgood is playing particularly well, especially later in the season." However, to keep everything balanced, you would also have to add that road fans chant the same term derisively to try to get the goaltender off of his game. I'm just not sure where to put this information right now. -- bmitchelf•T•F 15:21, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yup I agree, basically mentioned that on his talk page. -Djsasso (talk) 15:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Both Ozzie and the Wizard of Oz are currently used in the Visual, Audio and Print Medias in Detroit. Current Article on Ozzie.Current article on Wizard of Oz. I don't know how to put audio files or video files here to show the two nicknames used. During his first stint it was only Ozzie, and when he would make a stop the display at the joe would show "Another one for the Osgood files" (Charles OSgood the reporter reference). What is the problem exactly with showing a players nickname? There aee all sorts for players and groups of players: The Mule, The professor, The "Great" one, The Rocket, The Pocket-Rocket, The Grind Line, The Production Line.............................--Never give up! Never surrender! (talk) 19:35, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think you missed the point. Ozzie is not a nickname, it is what is known as a short name. This is the issue that people were having. -Djsasso (talk) 02:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References

Helmet

Osgood is the only Goaltender in the NHL to wear the "Helmet/Cage" Combo which is a helmet like the other players and a cage that covers their whole face. The remaining goaltenders use a "One piece" molded helmet, that has a small piece in the back that is attached by "elastic"-type strips to the rest of the helmet. Even Tim Tomas uses this helmet, see [2]. His helmet is different in that it does not have the chin portion also moldedinto the helmet like most, but it is still a new style one piece. --That's Life, "Stuff" happens, people die, life goes on. (talk) 01:24, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Number of goalie goals

Its actually 15 credited and 8 who have shot one in. 206.130.179.245 (talk) 14:55, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] St. James, Helene (2008-05-29). "McCarty, Draper, Osgood ... those who stay will be champions". Detroit Free Press. Retrieved 2008-07-23. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

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