Talk:Bridge–tunnel

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This article could do with a simple diagram or sketch. I'll look out for one, but if anybody has one, or could draw one, that would be great. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 00:07, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Vaoverland: that certainly helps (nice photo, too). Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 11:21, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Bridge-tunnel intro paragraph change

I removed the reference to the Chesapeake bridge-tunnel and added Vancouver's George Massey Tunnel to the introductory paragraph for a couple of reasons. First, the paragraph describes the occasional need for tunnels specifically, not bridge-tunnels which are discussed at length following the paragraph, so listing the Chesapeake Bay B-T was a bit redundant here. And adding a non-US example fulfills Wiki's mandate to avoid being US-centric when possible. 68.146.81.123 (talk) 15:38, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 August 2017

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved — Amakuru (talk) 09:27, 13 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed link → Bridge–tunnel – This appears to be the common name for such a crossing, and the corresponding list is already titled List of bridge–tunnels. – Train2104 (t • c) 14:50, 18 August 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 23:53, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose—the two are not synonymous. A fixed link can be a bridge–causeway with no tunnel element (e.g. King Fahd Causeway), or a causeway-tunnel with no bridge element (e.g. the link between Kunoy and Borðoy). ‑ Iridescent 15:13, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The article can expand to cover all the variations. "Fixed link" sounds highly ambiguous, as it could refer to any kind of Link. bd2412 T 04:22, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support According to several sources, a fixed link refers to any crossing, including conventional bridges and tunnels. Therefore, it is far more broad than this topic. An alternative solution is to split out bridge-tunnel in its own article and have a fixed link article about all crossings, but it does not appear "fixed link" refers exclusively to bridge-tunnels, tunnel-causeways, bridge-causeways, etc. Unless we're also talking about conventional crossings here, the title is inaccurate. Smartyllama (talk) 14:52, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support. This article started out with the scope of bridge–tunnels, and Category:Bridge-tunnels and Template:Bridge–tunnels conform to this scope. Macrakis expanded the scope on 16 August 2008 with this edit, a page move and this edit. It seems that the definition of "fixed link" is any replacement for ferry service that spans a significant body of water that takes a herculean engineering feat to cross. As the two are not synonymous, and fixed link can be a bridge–causeway with no tunnel element or a tunnel with no bridge element, then fixed link could be a broad-concept article that overviews bridges, tunnels, and bridge–tunnels which make difficult water crossings. – wbm1058 (talk) 21:04, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Intercontinental and transoceanic fixed links implies that most "fixed links" are intercontinental and transoceanic. Perhaps Fixed link should redirect to that article, which should define what a fixed link is in its lead section. To the extent that there may be some fixed links that are not intercontinental or transoceanic, the lead of that article can link to this article, and bridge and tunnel for the exceptions. wbm1058 (talk) 00:43, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.