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Neo Noir

Has Terminator got enough hallmarks to be defined as a neo-noir film?Internet Informant (talk) 05:29, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Neo-noir article makes no mention of Terminator (or James Cameron), but does include a See Also to Tech-noir. If you can find sources to support the inclusion, then yay, but as it stands there's nothing to justify the genre. Chaheel Riens (talk) 05:43, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tech-noir is the name of the discotheque in the film. Drsruli (talk) 07:04, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Tech-Noir" is certainly a term that has been retro-actively applied to several films and has origins in this. From this and " Razzamatazz Buckshank's journal article, I am tempted to create a "style" section in this article as it appears to be a continued point of interest for readers and does seem to have significant study since the films release in academia. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:42, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Famous Lines

First instance of "Come with me if you want to live." Drsruli (talk) 07:04, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What about it? Without further context, its hard to discuss. I believe The Terminator franchise article has bit more context, and "I'll Be Back" has its own article (!). We probably could have some section in the legacy of this article about how its more popular lines have entered pop culture, but from this sentence, I'm not sure what you are requesting specifically. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:40, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Slasher horror film+Serial killer film?

James Cameron stated that John Carpenter's Halloween (the movie that invented and codified the slasher film and is also very much a serial killer film) as a major influence on the film, and many film critics have pointed the similarities between the two, it would be appropriate to categorize the Terminator as a slasher film and a serial killer film. https://responsejournal.net/issue/2021-11/feature/mechanical-monster-cyber Razzamatazz Buckshank (talk) 00:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some discussion or just edits have been made to try to include these in the past, while they have similarities, Terminator in most research I did when I expanded the article at most made some mild comparisons to Halloween, but I don't recall any describing it as this genre. So per MOS:FILM standards on genre, I don't think we should include it. Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:25, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry on reading your journal you shared @Razzamatazz Buckshank:, there are valid points. I mis-read your link as part of your user-name on my phone. While it does make interesting cases, it does also state that "this paper defends The Terminator as a horror film, elements of science fiction and action clearly prevail in the movie’s storyline". So this is where things grow complicated. I think if there was more specific genre analysis in the article, we could maybe find a way to include this without just saying "terminator is a 1984 American science fiction slasher action serial killer film" with a dozen citations next to it, but I think some better approach would be some genre analysis applied, thought this could be a bit overkill for something as generally not so debated as The Terminator. Andrzejbanas (talk) 12:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Genre discussion

As genre has been brought up time and time again, I've tried to add some clarification for the genre within the article. I've used the sources mentioned above and felt that as the discussion of horror film traits and also the whole "Tech-Noir" thing should be evaluated upon. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:42, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]