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I have changed the Abbreviation from BdM to BDM. Because "Bund Deutscher Mädel" is a proper name, the adjective "deutsch" ist written in capitals in it (same as in English). The abbreviation is therefore "BDM", not "BdM".

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Changed the name to "Bund Deutscher Mädchen"

According to the WW2 book "World War II: A Visual Encylopedia", BDM stood for "Bund Deutscher Mädchen".

i checked in a school textbook of mine, and it says it is bund deutscher mädel, thus i believe that to be the true name. does anyone else have supporting information for either mädchen or mädel? --Sstabeler (talk) 18:46, 27 September 2005 (UTC)- note- i know my signature was added in a seperate edit- i forgot the first time, it is my comment. also note the speed of my edit.[reply]

My mother was a member of the Bund Deutscher Mädel. That was its correct title. Detmold 23:15 26 Feb 2006

Mädel vs Mädchen

In German, "die Mädel" (note feminine article) literally means "girl" and "das Mädchen" (note neuter article) literally means "little girl". So why are all girls regardless of age now called "das Mädchen"? Is it because "die Mädel" has too strong connotations to this organisation? — JIP | Talk 12:59, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You're wrong on all accounts. "die Mädel" is plural, not singular ("die" doubles as plural article); the singular is "das Mädel" (yes, neuter). "Mädel" is comparable to American "gal" or Scottish "lass": chiefly restricted to dialect and quaint sounding in mainstream. The Nazis had nothing to do with the way the word is used, though it's interesting to note "Mädel" is still common in Austria. 82.92.119.11 23:19, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Article should have a pic

At least one.

Here are several...

http://www.od43.com/Organisationsbuch_13.jpg

http://histclo.com/youth/youth/image/imgnat/girlsleas.jpg

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERwomen.jpg

http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t242/T242186A.jpg

24.60.66.216 (talk) 09:03, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know the copyright status of these images? I mean, I'm sure we can write a fair use rational if it is absolutely neccessary, but it would be better if we could find a free alternative. Puchiko (Talk-email) 18:50, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sites with photos and videos

This site: [[1]] has photos and this site [[2]] has a video about this nazist organization.Agre22 (talk) 03:12, 6 September 2008 (UTC)agre22[reply]

Category:Youth organizations based in Germany vs. Category:Hitler Youth

BDM Here is a site with detailed information on the BDM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.249.24.36 (talk) 08:12, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Hitler Youth is itself a category within Category:Youth organizations based in Germany. — Robert Greer (talk) 23:05, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks

Hans Jürgen Massaquoi says in Destined to Witness that very few girls followed the Nazi fashion rules of blond hair braided in a Schneken above the ears or gathered in a bun. --Error (talk) 00:02, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There was never an official Nazi "fashion rule" about how girls or women were supposed to wear their hair. -- Alexey Topol (talk) 16:08, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oktober or October?

Date of ediction of the decomposition legislation has the German spelling. Wondered if this was done on purpose? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.130.23 (talk) 17:32, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Girl on the photo

The article names the girl Ilse Hirsch, but bundesarchiv.de simply say ‘A young blond BDM.’ Are there any real source on her identity? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MONDARIZ (talk • contribs) 13:49, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think so. Name removed. Also there is no evidence for the partition of a woman named 'Ilse Hirsch' in assassination of Aachen town major Oppenhoff. This woman was acquitted in the trial. Information without evidence removed, too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.224.156.241 (talk) 16:41, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

full blue skirt

Does it mean "full blue" or "full skirt"? The skirt was dark blue, according the German Wiki.

heavy marching shoes were used when needed, but probably not obligatory - see pictures.Xx236 (talk) 12:22, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Modifying Nazi Gender Policies

Hello Wikipedians. There is missing information concerning the separation of the strict youth and adult world, which is why I am going to add to it. There is also little information about the institutions and political policy designated for gender-specific education ideals. In Reese’s “Growing Up Female in Nazi Germany” article, provides clarification on what gender-specific education was and what needed to be followed for the girls. Dagmar Reese is a researcher on the DFG-project "Georg Simmels Geschlechtertheorien im‚ 'fin de siecle' Berlin", 2004. I plan to add information about Durchbildung and geistige Mutterlichkeit, which are educational reforms that restricted German women. I also plan on adding to the German Women’s Order and the League of German Girls. Specifically, I will add about the struggle, as well as the political activism that took place. I would also like to add to the “enthusiasm” seen by the female workers and the propaganda and recruitment that was seen during this time. Along with this, I would like to add about the “wheel of progress,” as well as the concept of the youth that was linked to the bourgeois society and how that took place for the women in society. I also want to add some images of female workers or political activists in Germany. Altogether I’ll add about 200-300 words. If anyone has some additional information or wants to add a comment, please don't hesitate to message me on my talk page. ^[1] ^[2]Rmorriss (talk) 18:26, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Reese, D., & Templer, W. (2006). Ideology and Practice of Organizing Girls in the League of German Girls. In Growing Up Female in Nazi Germany (pp. 41-101). Ann Arbor: University of Michigan Press. Retrieved April 29, 2021, from http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.3998/mpub.178635.7
^ https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2369836.1443449367!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg

[1] Reese, D., & Templer, W. (2006). Ideology and Practice of Organizing Girls in the League of German Girls. In Growing Up Female in Nazi Germany (pp. 41-101). Ann Arbor: University of Michigan Press. Retrieved April 29, 2021, from http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.3998/mpub.178635.7

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