Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Juliet (artist)
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The result of the debate was- kept - SimonP 03:25, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
vanity. If she's a one-hit wonder, would she rate a page in a regular encyclopedia; if she was an up and coming artist, there would be more about her here in which case the page would still be vanity. Delete. --Mitsukai 16:17, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Aside from being non-notable it is questionable if she is an "artist" or only a "vocalist". Its also a bad stub. --Modi 16:24, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Being a bad stub does not prevent notability. Hedley 16:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Ridiculous VfD for a released artist. Amongst the 43,500 results on Google for "Juliet - Avalon" ([1]) are the page on HMV.co.uk: [2], the page on CDUniverse [3] and a lot of lyrics sites, reviews and forums mentioning the song. If required I have the music video as featured on First Play in the UK a couple of months ago. I think that a simple visit to Google would have prevented this - Also, how is it vanity unless I am connected to the artist? Hedley 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment.I restate my last: "If she's a one-hit wonder, would she rate a page in a regular encyclopedia"? We kill pages off here all the time for minor artist and people who reached number one in Sheboygan. While I will admit that she hit it big in Europe (no small feat that), the fact is, she's a minor artist at the moment and not worth, IMHO, an encyclopedia entry. I wouldn't expect Sonoko Kawaii (a Japanese one-hit wonder from the 80s) to have a page here, either, would I for American, Canadian, Australian, or wherever. --Mitsukai 17:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I would vote keep on an article for Sonoko Kawaii too. As Kappa states below she has had a minor hit - Infact, it wasn't minor, it was a top 5 hit on the Eurodance Chart and made the European Charts. See the Eurodance chart there: [4], the song is currently #9 on the chart. As for the one-hit wonder query - Well, a lot of one-hit wonders have articles - See New Radicals for a perfect example. Hedley 17:21, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Europe is a rather larger place than Sheboygan. AlexTiefling 19:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, having a minor hit across Europe indicates a certain amount of fame and/or notoriety, and passes the WP:MUSIC guidelines. Kappa 17:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. "Avalon" is Juliet Richardson's second song to chart (and not only in Europe—she's from Philly), the first was the cover of "Cherry Bomb" with 1 plus 1. The upcoming album is very strong too, generating a hell of a buzz. --iMb~Meow 17:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- There we have it. Notability ensured. Hedley 17:54, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - passes the WP:MUSIC guidelines--JiFish 18:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Excellent work. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 19:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep but rename either to her full name or something like Juliet (musician) if that's all she normally goes by. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 19:44, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
- I was going to move to Juliet Richardson now but as the VfD is ongoing i'll wait until after. Hedley 20:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and move to Juliet Richardson as per Hedley. Meets Wikimusic project criteria. Capitalistroadster 20:45, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per my musical group article policy. Kelly Martin 02:58, May 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Comment. Please note Hedley, IMeowbot, Epoynmous Coward and myself have all expanded and improved this article. It is now a good article if I say so myself. No change of vote from keep. Capitalistroadster 11:03, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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