Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeremy Broun

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The result of the debate was KEEP. Golbez 03:52, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

Jeremy Broun

Highly POV vanity. User:213.40.131.65 admitted on Furniture Today that he is Jeremy Broun. If he were logged in we could Userfy this, but as it is, dlete. RickK 09:46, May 7, 2005 (UTC)

This seems like the Gestapo ! What do you mean by 'admit' ? I am the author of Furniture Today !! What is wrong with my contributions to the knowledge base of tghis website please ? Am I expected to know what "userfy" means ?

Userfy is a local slang for moving the contents of the article into your user page. Users' personal page may contain any kind and amount of personal information (within reasonable limits, of course; gigabytes of photos will clearly be frowned upon). Mikkalai 20:44, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. Complete and massive cleanup Article's author should read Wikipedia:Autobiography. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 11:20, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I just cleaned up the article a little bit and added a list of selected books by Broun. But it still needs a bit more work. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 15:48, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep I'm not sure what the standards of fame are for a carpenter to get an article, but Jeremy Broun certainly deserves an article for his writing at least. I have his Encyclopedia of Wood Working Techniques, and it's definitely a real published book (and a good one, too). The ISBN listed is 1561382094. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 13:11, May 7, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup: Author seems to be notable, although having an entry for individual publications of his seems to be excessive (see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/A History of Designer Makers and Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Furniture Today. -- Chris 73 Talk 16:24, May 7, 2005 (UTC)

Am I allowed to join in !!!! As author I mentioned two of my books not wishing to be excessive ! One of your adminstrators has added some of my other publications but what confues me is that i simply added my details as a listing under 'Furniture Designer' and other entries include biographical details. My entry is not an autobiography ! Please clarify where I have broken your rules . Jeremy Broun

I have just read the "cleanup" job on my entry by the adminstrator who also added my books. . Thank you !!! It does read better than my original entry. Now I understand a little more about the accepted format. My apologies for obviously not reading the small print.

• Notable as an author, but this still looks like promo. weak keep BigFatDave 20:01, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
• keep. cleanup. Mikkalai 20:36, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
• OK, well then maybe I'll vote to Keep I guess. hydnjo talk 00:52, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

From Jeremy Broun on 8 May 2005 - I have withdrawn my articles Furniture Today and A History of Designer Makers as associated articles to my entry, due to further negative and insulting comments by "critics". What I have endeavoured to contribute in these two short articles has been criticized under your guidelines 'Blatant nonsense' by someone and as 'too enthusiastic' by another and as 'an essay, not a piece of Wikepedia writing' by someone else. If the writing aims to educate and inform does it really matter whether it is an essay or an article. As far as I am concerned I contributed these articles in the same way I contribute to the British media (except on this occasion I did not charge a fee). My style of delivery is an important and respected feature of my writing whilt the core of my writing is objective. Any professional knows that personal anecdote adds to the interest of an article. I get the feeling that the bulk of "critics" (eg "BigFatDave" ??) on this site are young students or people totally uneducated in the Crafts culture (in the UK) I have given 40 years of my working life to ? I am not prepared to have my professional (and respected in Britain) writing abused in this way. I joined this site in good faith in helping expand its knowledge base in my particular professional field of furniture design and making which is badly lacking. It appears to be a free for all for "critics" to hurl abuse or speak utter nonsense themselves ! I joined this site fresh just 24 hours ago and am disappointed at how democracy is so readily abused by so called free speech. What are the qualifications of those who have been so quick to degrade my writing and why are "critics" so quick to aggressively attack and find any excuse to reject my enlightened writing ? What are they actually trying to demonstrate or defend ? I thought this website was an International forum ?

• • Unfortunately you misunderstood the purpose. It is not a forum. It is encyclopedia. An encyclopedia must have certain rules, otherwise you don't need it: just do google search and you have tons of text. I would like to deeply apologize for the reception you've got and I deeply regret the misunderstanding. It is really sad, since it seems that we are lacking editors with expertise in your area. Mikkalai 01:54, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
• Userfy. This should be moved to Jeremy Broun's user page.
  • Why? the person clearly passes notability tests and the article is currently 100% informative and neutral. Mikkalai 01:54, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
• Concur with Mikkalai -- Abstain --Simon Cursitor 08:06, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
• Userfy to User:Jeremy_Broun. --Angr/_comhrá 08:30, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I strongly object to userfying my edits of the page. It is no longer an individual contribution. Either keep or delete. Either notable or not. Google results for "Jeremy Broun" + furniture speak clearly. Mikkalai 20:44, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
• keep: Notable author with many publications, awards and Google hits. Wikipedia is not paper and we have biographies on much less notable people.
• Keep and tidy up Brookie:the wind in the grass 07:02, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep treekiller. Klonimus 17:54, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
• Userfy. LouisRivera 03:00, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

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