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Discussion for Today

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This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_November_1


November 1

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NEW NOMINATIONS

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Category:Companies based in Cēsis

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Nominator's rationale: merge, categories with a single member, that is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Geography of Latvia by city

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Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with each only a subcategory for Riga. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:41, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Öresundsvarvet

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Nominator's rationale: delete, the subcategory suffices (that one might be renamed to Category:Ships built by at the Öresundsvarvet). No need to merge, the main article is already in Category:Defunct companies based in Landskrona, the subcategory is already in Category:History of transport in Landskrona. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:18, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Rutulian film people

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Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layers SMasonGarrison 02:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Edhi family

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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. This category doesn't help navigation with only a husband and wive pair who are already interlinked SMasonGarrison 02:22, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Indian People's Theatre Association people

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Nominator's rationale: The revised text appears to be more appropriate and conveys a better understanding of the category. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 07:58, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, not a defining characteristic. This is without prjudice to creating a chairs or activists category if they are defining characteristics. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete instead per WP:NOTDEF. If kept, oppose renaming for two reasons: 1. Abbreviations should be avoided (see WP:CATNAME; I don't think this falls under "acronyms that have become the official, or generally used, name (such as NATO)", evidenced by the title of the corresponding main article Indian People's Theatre Association); 2. (assuming WP:OCASSOC doesn't apply) while for this kind of category the naming schemes "People associated with..." and "... people" would be possible, it seems like if the organization name includes the word "association", only the latter is currently used (see search 1 and search 2), probably for stylistic reasons. Felida97 (talk) 19:15, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Was not tagged; I will do so.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:04, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Empires and kingdoms of foo

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Nominator's rationale: These are not all "empires and kingdoms", but rather include all historical states which once inhabited the modern-day territory of these countries. Opting for "polities" rather than "states" to remove any ambiguity (and these were not all "countries" either). Category:Former political entities in Afghanistan (currently the lone country cat in Category:Former territorial entities in Asia) and Category:Former countries in Indian history already exist, and thus Category:Empires and kingdoms of Afghanistan and Category:Empires and kingdoms of India should be merged there, and the two parents renamed with the desired naming scheme. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 00:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In fact there is a Category:Italian states. I sympathize with the argument of anachronism, but merging to general history categories would result in these categories becoming very messy. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle, I think that Category:Italian states does not pose a similar issue as it seems to be based on ethnicity and/or a link to a historical region, and thus is not anachronistic. To me, anachronism seems to be a significant issue in the case of the nominated categories, which needs to be addressed in one way or another. PadFoot (talk) 13:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure how to conclude that it is based on ethnicity or historical region. The category just lists all states within the boundaries of 21st-century Italy. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:21, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle, See the category itself. It says in the top:

This category contains articles on former Italian countries and polities. This category contain all the former states south of the Alpine water divide (North Italy) and in the Italian Peninsula and all the states of Italian language and or culture.

Besides, what is important is that the nominated categories present issues of anachronism. Perhaps you could suggest a way to fix that? PadFoot (talk) 02:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Italian Peninsula may well be considered to be a region, but current North Italy isn't part of it. North Italy is included in the category just because it belongs to the current state of Italy. There is also Category:Former countries in Spanish history. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
North Italy is indeed a part of it. See the very first line of the article on Italian Peninsula:

is a peninsula extending from the southern Alps in the north to the central Mediterranean Sea in the south

Besides, the cat also mentions "states of Italian language and culture". However, you have convinced me that the categories should be retained and not merged, but should be renamed (in one way or another) to fix the anachronism. Perhaps, we should also expand in the categories. PadFoot (talk) 12:01, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the alternative name suggested by PadFoot?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:45, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the alternative name suggested by PadFoot?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:21st-century diplomatic conferences (Afghanistan)

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Nominator's rationale: Nominating these subcats of the main 21st-century diplomatic conferences category. These subcats are WP:Overcat or in this case over subcat as each one of these subcats don't do much in terms of organizing these articles in a proper order nor are accurate.

For instance, the Afghanistan subcat deals in regard to the War in Afghanistan from 2001 to 2021. But the G7 articles under the Global subcat also dealt with Afghanistan including other conflicts. The G7 summit in 2013 for instance dealt with the war in Syria as one of the agenda items. So if there was a subcat with (Syria) in the title, it would go in there as well by this logic of the now-banned creator. But it too would go in the Global category. So, it would be too many categories for each summit that overlap on issues they deal with.

If there are going to subcats for the main category, it should be probably be something like "Category:2024 diplomatic conferences" as by year would help reduce the overflow of articles in one category. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on merging?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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