Talk:Clemens Brentano

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Who are Wieland, Herder, F. Schlegel, Fichte and Tieck? -- Zoe

Links for Herder and Fichter are fixed now.

Besides, sources mention either Clemens Brentano or Clemens von Brentano. Could a specialist figure out which one is appropriate? olivier 02:50 Oct 25, 2002 (UTC)

I'm hesitant to say this, but wasn't he very Anti-Semitic and sometimes blamed for the anti-Semitism in the "Dolorous Passion"?--T. Anthony 00:28, 8 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The name is clearly Clemens Brentano, not C. von B. He was, so to say, moderately anti-semitic, more precisely: anti-judaic of a Christian-Catholic vein (a German dissertation by Martina Vordermayer, 1999, discusses the topic of Brentano's anti-semitism quite accurately and with great care), although there are some very strong utterances in some of his works. The question of anti-semitism in Brentano's Emmerick writings is (in my opinion) a very difficult case. By the way: 'The Dolorous Passion' contains very little of Anna Katharina Emmerick's visions, most of it is his own. - There are some minor and some major faults in the article. Perhaps anyone competent of reading German should look up the article in the German Wikipedia (which is mostly written by me). 12 May 2006

Anti Semitism

Responding to the anti-semitism question of T. Anthony, I am interested in the source of your comment, since I need to understand better his(Brentano's) translations of the visions of Sister Emmerich. Those and the film creation which they engendered have been a source of tension within the Judeo-Christian community. In my studies regarding the Jewish Legal system of Halacha I have come to see the Pharisees in a totally different light, one which is in stark contrast to that shown in Gibson's "Passion". I intend to write on this very subject, so I would be interested in your input.

           Neil E. Downey,

The source? Let me see I think I read it somewhere, but I don't remember where. On page 12 of that document it says he had a strong belief in the German Volk. Several sources indicate he embellished on Emmerich's vision. Although they kind of indicate he may have hyped up Anti-Semitism more to give it extra drama then anything. If you add in extra horrors and villainy it's a cheap way to generate energy.

On another issue I admit I don't have a good view of the first century Pharisees, but in part that's because most every group in the first century AD strikes me as cruel by our standards.--T. Anthony 12:39, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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