Talk:Sgt. Slaughter
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G.I. Joe, Character Ownership, and Royalties
[edit]One thing this article doesn't expand on that I'd be interested in knowing is who owns the "Sgt. Slaughter" character: WWE, Hasbro, or Remus? Did Hasbro pay royalties to WWE or Remus, or buy the character/likeness outright? Are any of these entities still seeing royalties from this transaction today (sales of G.I. Joe media, etc.)?
Just something I've been wondering about. Thanks! 75.99.101.86 (talk) 15:21, 24 September 2014 (UTC)Skywarp
Remus owns it. Iamcyclops (talk) 14:55, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Montreal Screwjob
[edit]Sgt. Slaughter was present at ringside with Vince McMahon during the Montreal Screwjob at the 1997 Survivor Series. At that time, Slaughter also was, for lack of a better term, an advisor to McMahon and the World Wrestling Federation's bookings (similar to Gerald Briscoe and Pat Patterson). Does anyone know of Slaughter's role/knowledge in the incident, if he had any at all? --Dilk85
Please document the origin of sgt slaughter. I want full chicken and egg proof which came first, the wrestler or the gi-joe guy
The first Slaughter GI Joe toy came out in 1986. Bob Remus had been using the name and gimmick as a wrestler since the late '70s. Courtesy yojoe.com: "Professional wrestler Sgt.Slaughter was the first celebrity immortalized as a member of G.I.Joe. In addition, he voiced his own character in the G.I.Joe cartoons, filmed promotional spots and introductions for some of the G.I.Joe cartoons, and served as the spokesman in G.I.Joe toy commercials from 1987 to 1990." PeteF3 07:01, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Vitalstatistics
[edit]I have always seen the Sarge billed at 6'3" in PWI and other publications. (Sky Magazinr billed him as 6'6" in '91, but that was because Hogan was billed as 6'7"). How come the Sarge's height is now at 6'4"? Does anyone disagree with me reverting this?(Halbared 12:04, 30 May 2006 (UTC))
Hogan is actually 6'4, they'd bill him at 6'6 back then. It was most likely just to make Hogan look better. -- Dan N.
Here is Sgt Slaughter with 6'3 Jim Duggan. 6'4 + for Slaughter. http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/pictures/06/hacksawsgtslaughter.jpg
Here Jim duggan is slightly taller than legit 6'2.5 Dibease. http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/pictures/05/ratpack.jpg
Sgt. Slaughter the singer
[edit]I just added a new section to the article documenting the Sarge's brief musical career. The reason I am aware of this project, is that my dad was one of the main investors. (He lost nearly all his money.) He became involved because he lived downstairs from Sarge's friend, who did most of the actual singing.
Has anyone out there heard this album? I destroyed all my copies long ago, trying to make a whirlybird for my high-school science class egg drop competition. A cousin of mine says he saved his though. Wouldn't surprise me if that's the last remaining copy! Truly horrible, horrible album...
Entrance Music!
[edit]In the WWE's Greatest Wrestling Stars of the 80s DVD ( there is a featurette on Sgt. Slaughter. In this he claims that he was the one that first performer to ever have music played upon his entrance to the ring for crowd reaction. Has anyone seen or heard of this? Apparently he came out with some soldiers hymn.
I was a bit puzzled cause in the WWE's Hollywood Hulk Hogan book, Terry Bollea credit's himself for doing this. Apparently he came out to the eye of the tiger or something.
Sometimes it's too hard to differentiate between storylines and fact. It's too hard to try and be a smark.
Does anyone know anything about this? (Thebandweekly 01:12, 8 January 2007 (UTC)) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thebandweekly (talk • contribs) 01:11, 8 January 2007 (UTC).
Slaughter, The Freebirds, Hulk Hogan, and Roddy Piper have all at one point or another claimed to be the originator of entrance music. In fact, I beleive it was already in use sporadically in boxing during the 1970s. BoosterBronze 20:26, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
For that matter, I've seen historical footage of Gorgeous George coming out to classical music back in the olden days.76.226.103.166 (talk) 06:21, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
AWA World Heavyweight Championship
[edit]I was watching a dvd last night that the WWE put out a year or so ago called the Greatest Wrestling Stars of the 80s. Its a 3-disc collection with each disk featuring a number of matches and biographies of 5 wrestlers telling their history through interviews, photos, and footage. One of the wrestlers profiled is Slaughter and the dvd shows and states that he defeated Larry Zybszko for the AWA World Title. I know that he deveated him for the AWA America's Championship but the dvd explicitly stated he also won the AWA World Title. I'm a bit confused and was wondering if anybody knew if this was a case of the AWA revising its title history and not recognizing Slaughter winning it, the WWE declaring Slaughter a former AWA World Champion, similar to their reference to Ric Flair as a 16 time World Champion, or what exactly. Odin's Beard 00:23, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Sunblock
[edit]Does anyone remember the zinc based sunblock that Sgt. Slaughter promoted? I recall it came in many bright colors.
WikiProject class rating
[edit]This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 04:21, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Military career
[edit]In a recent interview on Steven Colbert's show [1] , Jesse Ventura implied that Sgt. Slaughter was a "fraudulent veteran", in contrast to Ventura, who was a Navy SEAL in the Vietnam era. I am only able to get, off of a web bio linked on this page, that Slaughter was a former drill instructor for the U.S. Marines - can anyone else verify, or is there any legitimacy in Ventura's claim? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.255.32.146 (talk) 21:20, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Jesse's lost his mind. Have you seen the guy lately? He's in pretty sad shape, and he's also seeing conspiracies all over the place.76.234.154.131 (talk) 07:33, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Ad himimens aside, "A former marine who earned his nickname during his service, Slaughter soon became a professional wrestler." INDB.com. I do not verify the accuracy of this statement, but IMDB's not nethatious for dis-information. The real queation is why this isn't mentioned here, in any form. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.175.31.186 (talk) 05:08, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
He's just done an interview on Jim & Sam in which he talked about his military career. He said himself that he got the nickname in Vietnam. It seems like there ought to be quite a bit more info here about that part of his life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt4jsJuaSMQ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.81.201.80 (talk) 11:30, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- YouTube and IMDB are considered extremely unreliable as far as Wikipedia is concerned. Combine this with the fact that Slaughter is considered one of the more notorious bullshitters in terms of embellishing certain aspects of his career, right up there with Roddy Piper. In the real world, however, you simply don't get away with being a fake Marine. There are just too many real Marines who are proud of their service and more than willing to out fake Marines. What you appear to be asking for is a source to verify his service that's separated from wrestling fandom. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 00:38, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
As of 05 Jun 2020, I clarified the reality of Remus' military service (Reality: Remus himself has no military service whatsoever) and moved it to the intro paragraph of this article (As of 04 Jun 2020, this biographical fact was previously tucked away inappropriately in the "Other media" paragraph. Since this is Wikipedia we must preserve the truth and accuracy of articles. But also, since this is Wikipedia, anyone including Remus himself can edit this article and turn it back, so be vigilant of any future embellishments. 2600:8800:7A86:C300:8C2D:841F:4C8F:6B9A (talk) 00:29, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
RAW XV anniversary
[edit]Shouldn't it say that Slaughter was the last man eliminated? it seems important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.102.213.209 (talk) 13:14, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Dead links
[edit]There are a few dead links here, namely the two used to reference the following two sentences:
"Slaughter, who had been working as a producer for WWE for the past several years, was released from his backstage producer duties with the company on January 13, 2009.[2] He will remain with the company on a limited basis as an ambassador.[3]"--74.235.39.126 (talk) 11:24, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Mid-Atlantic career
[edit]I've already figured out that most professional wrestling pages on Wikipedia are skewed towards the WWE historical revisionism version of pro wrestling. However, I'm surprised, if not shocked, that there is nothing on this page about Slaughter's role as one of the lead heels in Mid-Atlantic back in 1982 and 1983. While I don't have a reference handy for this, I've read before that the kind of money the Slaughter-Don Kernodle vs. Ricky Steamboat-Jay Youngblood cage matches drew is what really motivated Jim Crockett to come up with Starrcade.
And to answer two other questions raised above:
- Slaughter claims that the character name came from a movie character played by Jackie Gleason. I've never bothered to verify this.
- Slaughter's early entrance music was "The Marine Corps Hymn"(?) I have a faint recollection that he may have very well also used "The Battle Hymn of the Republic." I'm guessing these were both John Philip Sousa works, but once again, I haven't bothered to research that. As for his claims of inventing entrance music, it's pretty well acknowledged that Gorgeous George came to the ring to the tune of "Pomp and Circumstance" by Sir Edward Elgar (the same entrance music used by Randy Savage).
RadioKAOS (talk) 11:34, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Uh, really?
[edit](commenting on the "alley fight" with Pat Patterson in 1981)
>>>starting a hot feud which culminated in a "Alley Fight" in New York City's Madison Square Garden between the two that is widely regarded as the best "hardcore" match of the Kayfabe era.<<<
Perhaps the "most widely viewed" or words to that effect would work better? Anyone with a memory of the Jerry Lawler vs. Terry Funk empty arena match (held that same year) would take exception to the above statement.RadioKAOS (talk) 09:07, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Sgt. Slaughter
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Sgt. Slaughter's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "OWoW":
- From Warrior (wrestler): "Ultimate Warrior's OWoW Profile". Online World of Wrestling. Retrieved 2008-01-04.
- From Kofi Kingston: "Kofi Kingston profile". Online World of Wrestling. Retrieved 2007-12-08.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 20:45, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Where is he really from?
[edit]The issues I brought up previously still haven't been addressed, so I wonder why I'm bothering. However...why is it that the infobox gives one the impression that he really is from Parris Island, South Carolina, yet he's given post-kayfabe interviews acknowledging that he's from Minneapolis and that's not found in the article at all?RadioKAOS (talk) 22:18, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Two more things
[edit]Once again, it becomes apparent to remind everyone that this article needs work. Can anyone please explain something to me? Here's a recent addition to the article:
He appeared on episode #3.6 of Comedy Central's Tosh.0, when he clothes lined Daniel Tosh and put David Wills (a.k.a Youtube's "Crying Wrestling Fan") in a Cobra Clutch during Wills' "Web Redemption" segment.
Let me get this straight. This is important enough to take the time to include, but proper mention of where he's really from, pre-1984 career highlights (aside from WWF), or ANYTHING which may cause this page to appear to be something other than another WWE propaganda piece, isn't important? Really.
Also, I did my own web search, and it appears that there is a rapper named Sgt. Slaughter. I'm pretty sure the rapper has no notability in and of himself, or else he would probably be sued out of existence for using the name. Has anyone looked into the sizeable number of the current generation of rappers whose lyrics obviously demonstrate that pro wrestling was amongst their influences? If you look beyond the same three or four wrestling websites in doing your research, you might be surprised at what you find.RadioKAOS (talk) 20:10, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Yet more
[edit]Is anyone still paying attention? Didn't think so, but anyway...
- A simple web search indicates that multiple sources contend that Bob Remus was born in Detroit, not Parris Island. This still hasn't been addressed. If I wanted to read something which mirrors a WWE fansite, what do I need Wikipedia for? I figure I have plenty of alternatives.
- Here's something for any "real researchers" to be found. The AWA promoted shows in Alaska in 1985, which only lasted three months due to low attendance coupled with the inability of the AWA to possess a clue. Anyway, the first time out, they did a "big show" in Anchorage flanked by two spot shows. In the Anchorage show, Larry Zbyszko and Nick Bockwinkel stuff-piledrove Slaughter after the match. The following night, they appeared in an outdoor show in Kenai, at what is now known as Coral Seymour Ballpark. Slaughter did not appear; the audience was told that he was "injured" from the night before. Here's the (hopefully not original) research part: was Slaughter previously booked elsewhere, or did he refuse to work in Kenai due to the house? The attendance for the show, according to multiple sources, was comfortably in the lower three figures.RadioKAOS (talk) 04:38, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
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Money in the Bank 2017
[edit]He was at Money in the Bank last year TheBigBoss3900 (talk) 17:14, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
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