Talk:Kahoʻolawe

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On 13 January 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Kahoolawe to Kahoʻolawe. The result of the discussion was moved.

Ahupua'a

The article states that the island is part of the Honualua ahupuaa and has (Makawao) in parenthesis after this. But Makawao isn't even part of Honualua - it's on the other side of the island of Maui in Hamakualoa. Wailea is really the only modern settlement in Honualua. Larkid 173.161.106.205 (talk) 15:26, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tradewinds

Hephaestos (and earlier Menchi) wrote "Tradewinds" may be a proper noun, but it's not the proper noun for this context. Unfortunately, I will need to research this further (I'm not an English major, nor very good at the rules of English), but it is a popular misconception that Tradewinds and trade winds are different things. The winds that blow over Kaho'olawe are the Northeast Tradewinds (guess we need an article on the different winds of the globe). Someone please explain the context that makes "trade winds" correct in this instance - Marshman 17:24, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)

It's quite possible I misunderstand the concept with regard to Kahoolawe in particular; I was using Encyclopedia.com [1] as a reference. Definitely we need an article at some point, I was kind of surprised there wasn't one already. - Hephaestos 21:04, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Since we are both responding from mostly ignorance, I'll try and get to the bottom and make an article on Tradewinds. I was hopeful you would have a rule of English that would trump me. Living in the Northeast Tradewinds, I do know they are widely given as "trade winds" but meteorological friends tell me this is wrong and it should be "Tradewinds" (the name of a specific belt of winds on the globe). It was certainly that context that applies to the article here. -Marshman

Photo request

It would be nice to have a photo to replace the aerial one currently in the article, which is rather washed out due to the angle of the sun. -- Beland (talk) 22:52, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like we can find the original used as the basis for File:Kohoolawe satellite photo.jpg and upload it. I'll keep an eye out for it and replace the old one when I find it. Viriditas (talk) 05:48, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Target Isle

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Status Update

IF anyone can find any info on a status update on the munition cleanup etc.. please feel free as this article is starting to seem a bit dated. -Tracer9999 (talk) 16:14, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Audio Recording of Pronunciation

Would it be possible to include an audio recording of the correct pronunciation of the name Kahoʻolawe? I have found a couple of YouTube videos that attempt this, but I am unclear whether the word is being pronounced correctly in them.

Mark W. Miller (talk) 07:09, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Add ‘Okina to Title

Nearly all references to the island I see today use the ‘okina. I request a move to use it (or an apostrophe as close substitute). This article is the first time I have seen it written in the anglicized form. Mahalo. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 11:40, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Since there have been no objections in 16 days:

Requested move 13 January 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 03:10, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kahoolawe → Kahoʻolawe – Most modern references to the island use the ʻOkina (glottal stop/apostrophe). The majority of Google search pages that omit it seem to do that for technical reasons (except for Britannica, a source far removed from Hawaiian geography or history. Article was at Kahoʻolawe for some time before it was moved to the non-Okina version without discussion. While many Hawaiian topics and places appear with an without Okina depending on whether they are local or mainland/international sources (e.g. Hawaiʻi vs Hawaii, Oʻahu vs Oahu) the data for Kahoʻolawe is very strong towards using the Okina. The only significant use of the term without ʻokina in the citations come from geographic articles. Cultural, local, military (U.S. Navy) use the ʻokina. (Several Citations such as Honolulu Magazine [2] are cited in the article without the 'Okina used in the original sources. These were edited by an IP editor in October 2011 and removed without regards to the spelling using in the original (and will be restored regardless of the move outcome). -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 11:23, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Long overdue. Libcub (talk) 10:01, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support --Brunnaiz (talk) 15:09, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The spelling with the 'okina is the WP:COMMONNAME, as demonstrated by the preponderance of article sources, as well as Ngrams. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 18:59, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.