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Nitish Nirmal (actor) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Recreation of salted title: Nitish Nirmal, which was salted back in August. No immediate evidence of notability that I could find. CycloneYoris talk! 07:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ario Nahavandi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I'm not seeing third party SIGCOV, probably not enough here for WP:NBIO. KH-1 (talk) 05:59, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I hope you are well, I have added more references such as (Magazine, News and more refs) to make sure each statements are supported by mentioned references. Could you please let me know if this could help to not be nominated for deletion? any feadbacks or help in case if there are still some issue with this article would be appreciated, many thanks xx Lanak20 (talk) 20:53, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you provide links to three sources that discuss him in detail? -KH-1 (talk) 00:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes here are the some sources that dicuss him in the details:
1 ) https://www.nationaldiversityawards.co.uk/awards-2024/nominations/ario-nahavandi/
2) https://www.magcloud.com/browse/issue/1933514 ( Moscow tonight / Party issue/ February vol2/ page 34,35,36,37 )
3) https://www.bbc.com/persian/articles/cm5er1zggp0o
some extra just in case:
4) https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/1652987/%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AE%D8%B1-%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86-%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B4%DA%A9-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA-%D8%A2%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%87-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B4-%D8%AC%D9%86%DA%AF%DB%8C-%D9%BE%D8%AE%D8%AA-%D9%88-%D9%BE%D8%B2-%D8%B4%D9%88%D8%AE%DB%8C-%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C
5)
https://roozaneh.net/art-culture/biography/%D8%B2%D9%86%D8%AF%DA%AF%DB%8C%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%87-%D8%B3%DB%8C%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%AE%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%88%DB%8C/
Lanak20 (talk) 12:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Promotional profile, probably user submitted.
  2. Can't access the full publication, unclear what coverage it provides of the subject
  3. About a protest song, doesn't specifically mention the subject as far as I can tell English
  4. What appears to be a film review, doesn't mention the subject as far as I can tell English
  5. What appears to be a promotional bio of a different individual - English

Still not seeing anything that would demonstrate SIGCOV.-KH-1 (talk) 05:11, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I appreciate your feadback however:
  1. It is not a promotional website, there is not a part of website stating user can create a profile or bio. the National Diversity Awards website is not a promotional platform where individuals can create their own profiles. It is a curated, third-party site that publishes detailed nomination profiles for individuals recognized for their achievements. Wikipedia's notability guidelines for biographies of living persons, such as WP (General Notability Guideline), accept third-party recognition and profiles published on award platforms as potential sources. This source provides coverage that is independent and detailed enough to establish some notability.
  2. The February issue of Moscow Tonight, available on MagCloud, includes four dedicated pages about the subject. This source should meet WP guidelines, as it provides detailed coverage on the individual. The fact that the magazine is behind a paywall does not negate its validity as a source, especially since Wikipedia encourages the use of reliable sources regardless of paywalls (WP). To address your concern about access, I am happy to provide additional details if needed."
  3. I understand there may have been a translation challenge here, as the article on BBC 'Persian' references the individual within the broader context of cultural movements. The piece mentions notable figures, including the subject, associated with influential trends in this movement. BBC Persian is a reputable source, and while the English translation may lack some nuance, the article reflects the subject’s role within a culturally significant narrative, which aligns with WP when viewed as part of their broader impact. I’m happy to clarify any specific details from the source in the original Persian to ensure accurate representation. This source, while not comprehensive on its own, does contribute valuable context alongside other supporting sources that I am preparing to further substantiate the article.
  4. Mashregh News Article on a Protest Song (Bella Ciao and artists who sang) : While this article is not just a film review and may not solely focus on the subject, it is worth noting that WP allows for multiple sources that contribute to notability as a collective rather than needing to be individually comprehensive. This piece references the subject within a context that showcases their influence and relevance, particularly within cultural discussions, which contributes to notability even if indirectly.
  5. Roozaneh.net Biography (Appears to Be a Different Individual): I understand the concern here. It seems this website might be confusing in English translation but i have added this as there is a connection to related page as in the article it was mention of music collaboration and some refers. I am willing to remove it from consideration and focus on sources directly pertinent to the subject. My apologies for any confusion here.
Lanak20 (talk) 13:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. We need to see more participation here besides the nominator and the article creator.
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Upper Nile Region from 1898 under Anglo-Egyptians Military Rule with Civil Colonial Natives Administrations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Blatant essay. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 05:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Islamophobic incidents (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Since I nominated List of antisemitic incidents in the United States I should nominate this too, since it has the exact same problems.

Extremely, extremely broad and vague scope, with barely any quality control. Making this list anywhere close to comprehensive coverage of its baffling scope would be impossible, and would mostly contain low level news stories (as it does). If this was going to be a selection of notable pages (and changing it to that would require deleting 99% of the list) maybe, but the problem is in the title still: "Incident". Incident is so broad as to be useless, it can be anywhere from a terrorist attack to someone calling someone a mean word on the bus, this is a completely un manageable scope. Anti-Muslim terror acts or hate crimes targeted at mosques would likely meet NLIST, and if there is consensus to rescope to that we can, but that would also require nuking most of the page. Also, weasel words: "could be considered Islamophobic"? What? Also has WP:BLPCRIME concerns in that it accuses people of crimes without convictions. It also has WP:NOTNEWS issues, which is not inherently a problem for a list, but is a problem when it's based on an inherently POV and negative concept and one with a scope as vague and with as many possible entries as "incident" PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete/Draftify - WP:SALAT indicates list articles should not be overly broad. This article probably could exist if the subsections were there own articles with relevant and useful selection criteria. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 21:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as there is no consensus. Few of the arguments presented are based on Wikipedia policies and guidelines. That would be helpful in future contributions to this discussion.
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Marcel Lichters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A likely autobiography of a non-notable academic. No evidence of WP:SIGCOV (news searches turn up zero results, for example) to pass WP:GNG. Nor is there evidence of a WP:NACADEMIC pass; his h-index of 9 is quite low for a full professor in business/economics, indicating that he is not particularly influential within his profession and more of a WP:MILL academic. Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:13, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny Partin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:POLITICIAN No establishment of notability. Only 1 secondary source, and it's about his election. — BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 04:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maltersville, Indiana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Another case where the cited source argues against notability, for the passage in question reads in full, "This is a little place laid out by Mrs. Anna Barbara Malter, December 17, 1867. It has no postoffice, and is little more than the crossing of two public highways." And indeed there is a cement plant a little ways off in one direction, and a plumbing house's showroom in another, and the latter claims to be in Jasper. THis seems to be a place that just never really amounted to anything. Mangoe (talk) 03:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

JoonYong Park (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject seems to fail WP:GNG. Very little coverage in reliable, independent, secondary sources. Mostly primary sources... press releases, a few interviews which per WP:INTERVIEWS would be primary sources, and the one small independent secondary source (the AdAge piece, ref #1 and #7) is the same piece just republished. WP:BEFORE search just shows more primary sources, social media, LinkedIn posts, etc. RachelTensions (talk) 03:06, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Carroll (lottery winner) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lack of any real notability, apart from having won the lottery and being a moron. Lack of citations makes this even worse, as there's hardly anything to say about this guy. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 02:42, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong Keep This article is very important, or to phrase it another way, no less important than many many others. Who are we to culturally filter what is kept? The number of actors/writers articles I pass by here who clearly curate their own pages, running them as C.Vs, and they all stay because they find some NYT books section reference to stave off deletion. This guy? He gets binned? Michael, his response to wealth, and the infamy it generated at the time in newspapers, is significant in U.K. early 2000s culture. It remaining is important in evidencing the wider implications for how money, culture, and class influence society. Wikipedia is damaged by loss of articles like these, and all the more so because people with poor socio-economic positions are simply pushed out of existence (literally, here), while those with means remain (and thus dominate). SFC9394 (talk) 11:46, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The New York Times dedicated 1,133 words on Carroll stating he is an object of "national fascination". There's been a documentary about the subject on mainstream UK television that itself has received critical attention from reliable sources. There's quite a lot of further coverage available. I see no reason why the subject fails to meet WP:BASIC. ResonantDistortion 15:18, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There is a lot of tabloidy coverage, but there is also stuff that is not tabloid at all. The fascination with him went beyond the surface level, and he does clearly meet WP:BASIC PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:37, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Good Glamm Group (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Trivial coverage WP:ORGTRIV, promotional WP:PROMO and WP:ROUTINE. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. This AfD should be grouped with the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MyGlamm, as they both have similar promotional content. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 03:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MyGlamm (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Trivial coverage WP:ORGTRIV, promotional WP:PROMO and WP:ROUTINE. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 03:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Pittsburgh shooting (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I have been unable to find sustained and persistent coverage of this shooting and I believe that it does not meet the crime notability guideline. The shooting occurred on April 17, 2022, and all but three sources that I have been able to find were published from April 17–19, 2022. First, an academic article published November 11, 2022, has a paragraph about the shooting claiming that it "gained wide public attention, commentary, and condemnation", but it only cites to an April 17, 2022 article in People. Then, on November 17, 2022, WTAE-TV aired a story on a lawsuit that was filed regarding the shooting. Finally, in April 2023, WTAE ran a routine one-year follow-up piece. voorts (talk/contributions) 03:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't call the follow up piece routine (and I think that word is overused) but it is excessively local and by itself not enough. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
this piece from earlier this year, which goes into its impact on airbnb, the law it inspired and the ongoing legal battle. I think this is pretty decent with respect to showing notability.
Less helpful post 2022-sources: [1] [2] [3] [4]
Coverage is, to my taste, excessively local, but Pittsburgh is the second largest city in a large state so... eh. More importantly is that the later coverage is analytical with respect to the shooting's relationship with Airbnb. Not sure if it's enough, so not yet going to vote either way. This did result in a law change (as the first piece shows). Maybe merge somewhere, but can't think of a target. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sugar Cosmetics (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Trivial coverage WP:ORGTRIV, promotional WP:PROMO and WP:ROUTINE. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 02:59, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looky (Rainbow Friends) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails GNG. PROD was removed. C F A 💬 02:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Foundation for Education Support (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There is no assertion of notability and while I do not read Russian, Google Translate accesses it with some ease and I'm unable to find N:ORG level coverage. I do not think a redirect to or merge with Gymnazium Union of Russia is viable as I'm not sure that would survive AfD either although the name makes a BEFORE more challenging. Star Mississippi 01:54, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kirk Shaw (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable individual. Article is sourced pretty much entirely to press releases or companies associated with the individual. Also contains an unsourced list of non notable minor festival award. Spanneraol (talk) 00:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Macintyre Art Advisory (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Created by a single edit editor. Last AfD was withdrawn for technical reasons for being nominated by a sock. This fails WP:ORG and GNG and has been marked for notability concerns for 9 years. LibStar (talk) 00:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wajid Ali Syed (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and cannot be considered for WP: CREATIVE for Journalists. It seems all the articles published for the subject were put together as sources on his Wikipedia page. The sources focused on different walks of life rather than the subject. Ibjaja055 (talk) 00:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]