Talk:Kompressor (musician)

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This page needs a lot -- Quinwound 01:24, Mar 23, 2004 (UTC)

i agree. Kompressor is perhaps the most brilliant musician of our time. ✈ James C. 04:06, 2004 Oct 10 (UTC)

What else can be done, except adding a big KOMPRESSOR DOES NOT DANCE is foot high letters? I added a picture of KOMPRESSOR anyway. Ferretgames 01:51, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I changed the organization around a little. Added a new section which lists the albums and has hyperlinks to their names. I also took the time to create the first article for CRUSH TELEVISION. I also added a link at the end to the spot where you can download a good number of Kompressor's songs. Every little bit helps. Triddle 21:32, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Kompressor vs. KOMPRESSOR

Shouldn't the name of the article and all the "Kompressor"s be written as "KOMPRESSOR" since that's how it's written on the official webpage and everywhere else?

In need of outside perspective

This article is written in the style of an in-joke. It should contain more encyclopedic information.

This is true. The problem is that the artist is kind of an in-joke gone mad. While many people have access to real biographical information on the artist, it is his repeated request that his personal information be kept secret, not so much for hoax-promoting or intrigue reasons as what I would (I'm going to be blunt) describe a survivalistic obsession with personal privacy, despite (or because of) a large cult fan base, originating from the Song Fight! community but now pretty much coursing throughout college campuses everywhere. I don't know how I feel about providing the blatantly false/humorous biographical information that he puts out, but I think it would be fine to explain who the artist professes to be, so long as the implication is clear that it is not uh, perfectly reliable information. Fearwig 19:26, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted the excision of the name. Notwithstanding that there is still much dispute over whether the prescriptions and proscriptions of WP:BLP ought to extend to talk pages, the real name is notable (and the subject is surely a volitional public figure), and only objections per WP:RS and WP:V should be essayed, and then only, IMHO, in mainspace. I appreciate your concerns, but where a subject is at least arguably public (see, e.g., Talk:Brandy Alexandre, which I adduce toward the proposition, at the very least, that a subject's concerns about the printing of his/her given name are, inasmuch as they are unencyclopedic, wholly irrelevant to our mission), it is not for us to be concerned about the external consequences of our editing (we don't operate, for example, in view of a harm limitation principle). If your concern is as to the verifiability of the information, it would, I think, be appropriate for you to remove the name from the article (were it still there), but not from the talk page, where a discussion apropos of its provenance and the propriety of its inclusion will reasonably involve recitation of the name. Joe 06:07, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Despite my reservations about their release, I'll say that the name and website association are correct, though I would say the relationship is probably unverifiable save by OR. If you really dug, you'd probably find some speculation out there on a message board, but that's not a reliable source. I will also say that this is a good reason, ladies and gents, not to ever be famous on the internet. All the detractors, none of the perks. :)Fearwig 18:10, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Factual dispute

I noticed someone removed the statement "The real person behind KOMPRESSOR is Andrew Fairweather, creator of the Toothpastefordinner webcomic." Is there any source to indicate who is the real person behind KOMPRESSOR?--Aleron235 19:50, 18 January 2006 (UTC) (see below for explanation of asterisks) Fearwig 19:30, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there's an article on SomethingAwful that seems to come from the person behind KOMPRESSOR. Would this help or be useful in the article? ♥ GeekGirlSarah ♥ 17:46, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's probably worth mentioning; thanks a bunch for finding it! There's a lot of interesting stuff that robarb says in that thread. Also, on page 5 of the thread, he says he's starting a new rap project, but doesn't want to promote it in the context of KOMPRESSOR. The trouble is, what he said throughout his various posts still might not do enough to confirm it's him. --Idont Havaname (Talk) 05:24, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that providing this information will promote a flurry of edits from the artist or someone close to him if he finds out. This is just my experience--maybe his opinions on privacy have changed, but because it is a matter of personal privacy, I think the real name and associated site should be removed. For now I'm going to blank out what's said above, just in case. I think there is a moral matter here--just because someone has a cult following doesn't mean that Wikipedians have a right to "out" him. "Andreas K." is his professed name. Use any other name and you are doing as well as to provide people with his phone and mailing address. That is the source of his reservation as I understand it (though I am not qualified to represent him, don't know him anymore, and was never much in agreement with him about anything). Fearwig 19:30, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"fictional electronic musician"

Note: **** added for reasons above. I am aware this can be reverted, but please read my explanation. I hope I'm acting in the right here, in terms of policy.Fearwig 19:31, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is this descriptor accurate? Shawnc 07:41, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It depends in what sense you mean fictional. He is real in the sense that he has created and released music. But I'm pretty sure that the person behind the project, Andreas K, is the fictional alter-ego of Andrew Fairweather. -- Aleron235 17:31, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am going to eat the head of the next person that adds him to that damn category. He isn't a freaking fictional musician. The only thing that's anything fictional is his character of being an alien, but hundreds of bands have such characters, they're not suitable for inclusion into that category. He is a real musician, who makes real music who earns real money, he's not a made up figure. Donning a mask dosen't make you fictional, I guess every member of Slipknot is fictional then? - Ferret 17:54, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(I only added the category for consistency with the intro paragraph at the time) Shawnc 08:32, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are some verifiability issues, seeing as KOMPRESSOR stays strictly in character, but it does seem that his persona is an act. It would definitely be good to address this as well as the Andreas K/Andrew Fairweatherconnection. As is, a reader would get the impression that KOMPRESSOR is actually a German musician from Bremen named Andreas K speaking English as a second language, which seems unlikely. NTK 06:49, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As I have said, Kompressor is most definately a character, but that doesn't make one a fictional musician. That category and explination is for say, a writer that creates a novel with character who just happens to be a mucisian. That would be a fictional musician through and through, in that they do not exist. Whereas Kompressor exists in that the music is there, is made and is sold (or rather was sold). The front means little to what Kompressor really is, and that is a great, and real entertainer. I agree that this possibly needs more clarification in the article, but can we please put a rest to the "Is K. real or not?" debate? - Ferret 08:19, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

drew from toothpaste for dinner

Drew from Toothpaste for Dinner has come out and said he is Kompressor: http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/journal/journal.php?user=toothpaste&id=446&readcomment=1. This should probably be talked about in the page, I don't know how to go about it eloquently enough. Mkilly 18:50, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kompressormusic.com now gives links to Toothpaste for Dinner and Natalie Dee. Both Toothpaste for Dinner and Kompressormusic.com have both publicly said that Drew is Kompressor, so we should be ok to mention it. --Idont Havaname (Talk) 05:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Horrible German accent.

My friends told me about this "German" band, and how funny it was to hear some German guy sing about using words & brushing your teeth; but I noticed how fake the German accent sounded, as it turns out, he's from Ohio. No surprise to me. He sounds just like an American trying to sound German. Badly. 67.5.156.67 20:56, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed "prod"

This article should not be summarily deleted - already has one "keep" from articles for deletion. I can personally vouch for it being more than a "publicity stunt" at least in the sense that the music releases described actually happened during the years stated... Timothy Bolbrock (talk) 06:02, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Current Website

The reason for rev 247479312 was because I got a takedown notice from Drew and didn't feel like dealing with him. You can leave it up if you want to deal with it, I don't care. The original page it cites is gone, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.121.57.145 (talk) 07:26, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was Kompressor (musician) → Kompressor – There are no other articles with this name, so the disambiguation is superfluous. It looks like multiple moves got this all jumbled. Kompressor was moved to KOMPRESSOR, which was moved to Kompressor (musician). Kompressor was then redirected to Compressor. It should just be back the way it was originally. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 16:23, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Seem uncontroversial. First Light (talk) 21:14, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but OpposeThe primary meaning of Kompressor is the Mercedes badge on various series - this "Andreas K." which is also a stagename for Drew (webcomic artist) redirects to Married to the Sea and real name Drew Fairweather, would presumably be making reference to the Mercedes. The fact that en.wp ~~doesn't have a Kompressor (Mercedes-Benz) article,~~ or rather Kompressor which now redirects to Compressor (disambiguation) did in the past (redirect history redirect to compressor or supercharger doesn't change that the Mercedes badge is still overwhelmingly the primary meaning. Anyone searching on Kompressor needs a disambiguator to tell them that a not very notable hip hop artist Andreas K. once used the name too. For example a Gnews search immediately picked up "1928 Mercedes discovered in garage after 60 years to be auctioned - The legendary 'Kompressor' -- German for 'Supercharger' -- series of the 1920s was designed by Ferdinand Porsche and its 6.8-litre engine ...Fox News - 20 Jun 2012 .. What links to Kompressor redirect now? The only actual article linking there is the Mercedes-Benz 380 (1933) article. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Persistent notability? to be honest this guy has more than earnt his own BLP; Kompressor, Andreas K, Drew the cartoonist, Dog Traders and CRUDBUMP... add these all together and a separate BLP is called for. In which case this article might be better renamed as Drew Fairweather and be done with it. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:40, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Blah, what a mess. I didn't know any of that about the Mercedes, and in light of that and the cluster of articles surrounding the multinamed multimedia artist, I'd rather combine a few articles along the lines of your second comment. I'd like to withdraw the nomination. I will see if First Light will change their statement in consideration of the new information. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 23:50, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, I didn't know this either :). I just created a Kompressor (Mercedes-Benz) stub, having searched out the refs seemed wasteful not to use them. No doubt car enthusiasts will either upgrade or merge or whatever later. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to oppose, in light of all this. Thanks for straightening us out. First Light (talk) 01:24, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The Mercedes meaning is not just for historical models. I have seen many new "Kompressor" Mercedes models driving around (e.g. see [1] and [2]). There also seems to be some LG vacuum cleaner and Volkswagen meanings. —BarrelProof (talk) 01:32, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - See also Mercedes-Benz C208. —BarrelProof (talk) 01:34, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose it should redirect to supercharger, since most people see it as an option on German cars. -- 70.49.127.65 (talk) 03:30, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This request has been withdrawn. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 12:47, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.